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<p>Christopher,</p>
<p>This is very interesting information for several reasons: <br>
</p>
<p>(1) the snow and rain flags are not part of the raw data stream
from the weather stations, so I've assumed they have to be
extracted from the Present Weather reports, <br>
</p>
<p>(2) the wy3 is a derived weather file format developed for ASHRAE
back in the late 1990s so old that Env Canada might be the only
place still using it; I'm not aware that the wy3 contains the
snow/rain flags but they must have been put there by Env. Canada,
and I would be very interested to see how these flags correlate to
what I can get from the Present Weather data in the raw weather
files.</p>
<p>In the little bit of time I've spent looking into this issue over
the past week, I was unsure which of the PW codes should be used
for the Snow/Rain flags. Take a look at the attached table of
Present Weather Observation Codes currently used in weather
station reports, i.e., METAR. Should we use all the 7's as ISNOW,
although 74 - 76 refers to "Ice Pellets", and what about 85 - 87
referring to "Snow showers or intermittent rain"? Similarly, we
can use all the 6's as IRAIN, but what about 24 (Rain), 25
(Freezing Drizzle), etc.? That's why I'm very interested to see
what Env. Canada did.</p>
<p>(I'm also adding BLDG-SIM back to this post because the same
issue has been in discussions there, too.</p>
<p>Joe<br>
</p>
<pre class="moz-signature" cols="90">Joe Huang
White Box Technologies, Inc.
346 Rheem Blvd., Suite 205A
Moraga CA 94556
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span>The Environment Canada website has
the latest version of the CWEC files - .epw and raw, .wy3
format. The .epw file does not include the snow rain flags
but the raw data .wy3 file does. I converted the .wy3 file
to .bin using the DOE2 weather processor and voila, the snow
and rain flags are included in the .bin file. Now, I only
converted 1 file as a test but it is encouraging.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">Technical Specialist</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">Sustainability &
Energy</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><i><span>Please consider the environment
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span>From:</span></b><span> Joe
Huang [<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:yjhuang@whiteboxtechnologies.com">mailto:yjhuang@whiteboxtechnologies.com</a>]
<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, January 09, 2018 4:50 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Brian Fountain
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:bfountain@greensim.com"><bfountain@greensim.com></a>; Jones, Christopher
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:Christopher.r.Jones@wsp.com"><Christopher.r.Jones@wsp.com></a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Bldg-sim] [EnergyPlus_Support] RE:
[Equest-users] White Box Technologies brings simulation
weather data to the satellite age</span></p>
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<p>Hmm, the Canadian contingent on the bulletin boards are
voicing their needs in weather data :-) This reminds me of
the one trip I took to Calgary in December 20+ years ago and
seeing the parking lots had electrical outlets at each spot so
that car engines would not freeze up. I was duly impressed.</p>
<p>Back to the snow flag on weather files, isn't the condition
of most relevance whether there's snow cover, rather than
whether it's snowing? Unfortunately, the weather station raw
data do not report this, which could vary quite a bit
depending on the ground surface anyway. There ARE fields for
solid precipitation similar to those for liquid
precipitation. I've never looked carefully at these, but they
might give the amount of snow fall over the past so many
hours, which would be an improvement over the Present Weather
that just tells whether or not there is snowfall that hour.
One might be able to calculate snow cover based on the amount
of snow fall, solar radiation, and temperature. It's quite
likely that some meteorologist or physicist with time on
his/her hands might have already done that in Canada. If you
know of any such work, let me know.
</p>
<p>Just based on what I've read so far, I'm going to start
putting in the IRAIN and ISNOW flags into the DOE-2 *.binm
files.</p>
<p>Joe</p>
<pre>Joe Huang</pre>
<pre>White Box Technologies, Inc.</pre>
<pre>346 Rheem Blvd., Suite 205A</pre>
<pre>Moraga CA 94556</pre>
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<pre>(o) (925)388-0265</pre>
<pre>(c) (510)928-2683</pre>
<pre>"building energy simulations at your fingertips"</pre>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On 1/8/2018 4:35 PM, Brian Fountain
wrote:</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">As Chris suggested, they aren't used
directly in the sim ... but we use them to create custom
schedules for snow melting loads.</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On 08/01/2018 6:44 PM, Joe Huang via
Bldg-sim wrote:</p>
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<p>The rain and snow flags are still available in the raw
weather station data, but haven't been included in the
processed weather files since the 1990's because everyone
in this hemisphere at least have adopted the TMY2/TMY3
formats, in content if not the literal file format,
developed by NREL, which does not include these two flags.
I was also under the impression that none of the
simulation programs, such as DOE-2, do not use these two
flags anyway. If these flags are of use, it would make
sense to include them, which would not require a change in
the DOE-2 *.BINM format, but would require a change to the
EnergyPlus *.epw format.</p>
<p>Joe</p>
<pre>Joe Huang</pre>
<pre>White Box Technologies, Inc.</pre>
<pre>346 Rheem Blvd., Suite 205A</pre>
<pre>Moraga CA 94556</pre>
<pre><a href="mailto:yjhuang@whiteboxtechnologies.com" moz-do-not-send="true">yjhuang@whiteboxtechnologies.com</a></pre>
<pre><a href="http://weather.whiteboxtechnologies.com" moz-do-not-send="true">http://weather.whiteboxtechnologies.com</a> for simulation-ready weather data</pre>
<pre>(o) (925)388-0265</pre>
<pre>(c) (510)928-2683</pre>
<pre>"building energy simulations at your fingertips"</pre>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On 1/8/2018 12:15 PM, 'Jones,
Christopher' <a
href="mailto:christopher.r.jones@wsp.com"
moz-do-not-send="true">
christopher.r.jones@wsp.com</a> [EnergyPlus_Support]
wrote:</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span>I have a question –
what happened to the rain and snow flags that
were in the old CWEC file but are missing in
the latest versions. Many snow melting systems
have a snow/rain sensor in the slab used to
trigger the system on. </span>
</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span> </span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-GB">Christopher
R. Jones</span></b><span lang="EN-GB">,
P.Eng.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">Technical
Specialist</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">Sustainability
& Energy</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span>T +1 416-644-0252</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span>2300 Yonge Street,
Suite 2300</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span>Toronto, ON M4P 1E4
Canada</span><span lang="EN-GB"><br>
<br>
<br>
</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span><a
moz-do-not-send="true"><span>wsp.com</span></a></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-CA"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span> </span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><i><span>Please consider
the environment before printing...</span></i></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span>From:</span></b><span>
Equest-users [<a
href="mailto:equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org"
moz-do-not-send="true">mailto:equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Joe Huang via
Equest-users<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, January 02, 2018
10:15 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Nicholas Caton <a
href="mailto:Nicholas.Caton@schneider-electric.com"
moz-do-not-send="true">
<Nicholas.Caton@schneider-electric.com></a>; BLDG-SIM <a
href="mailto:bldg-sim@lists.onebuilding.org"
moz-do-not-send="true">
<bldg-sim@lists.onebuilding.org></a>;
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<EnergyPlus_Support@yahoogroups.com></a>; <a
href="mailto:equest-users@onebuilding.org"
moz-do-not-send="true">
equest-users@onebuilding.org</a><br>
<b>Cc:</b> Jim Dirkes <a
href="mailto:jim@buildingperformanceteam.com"
moz-do-not-send="true"><jim@buildingperformanceteam.com></a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Equest-users] White
Box Technologies brings simulation weather
data to the satellite age</span></p>
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<p>Nick,</p>
<p>This is an interesting topic that has evolved
in an unexpected way. Now that NREL has
mastered the technology of satellite-derived
solar radiation, they have regarded weather
station data as an impediment, since there's no
way to get such measured data to match the
5-kilometer grid of the satellite-derived
solar. Therefore, they have abandoned the
weather station data (which was was used in all
the TMYs to date) and gone instead to Reanalysis
Data from NOAA's MERRA, which is running a
climate forecasting model in retrospective mode.
I don't have time now to discuss reanalysis,
except to say that from what I've seen the
results are decidedly "iffy". Almost two years
ago, I managed to get a Work Statement through
ASHRAE for someone to take a good look at
reanalysis data.</p>
<p>So, what does this mean for your question?
NREL's National Solar Radiation Data Base
(NSRDB) can now get you the hourly time series
or a TMY for more than a million grid points
over the US, all with satellite-derived solar
radiation but MERRA results for the other
climate parameters. I've told NREL several
years ago that for the building simulation
industry it would be much better to merge the
satellite-derived solar with actual station data
that give good accurate coverage of urban areas
where buildings are located. NREL's response was
that they'd be happy to do this, but someone has
to pay them for the work.
</p>
<p>In response to your hypothesis below, I think
you're being too disparaging of the previous
modeling efforts while raising too high your
expectations of satellite solar. It's not that
the previous models failed to account for local
climate conditions, but that they lacked good
data to drive them. For example, all models
included terms for cloud cover and clearness, or
for the more detailed physical models arcane
parameters like aerosol optical depth,
preciptable moisture, etc., but how available
are the input data and how reliable are they?
The advantages of satellite-derived solar are
that they provide a comprehensive and objective
view of the cloud conditions, which combined
with satellite measurements of the atmospheric
conditions and improved modeling, results in
accuracies that previous modeling efforts can
not attain. As far as discerning localized
effects of smog and dust in urban areas, that
would still depend on whether there's sufficient
monitoring at that spatial and time scale to
detect the differences. What I mean is that
it's one thing to observe that in general urban
locations have more smog and particulates than
rural locations, but it's something else to
quantify the resultant differences in solar
radiation over time and distance.</p>
<p>I'd like to take the opportunity here to step
back and comment on the status of weather data
for the building energy community, My
interactions with NREL has brought the
realization that we have been piggy-backing on
the efforts of others outside our community for
our weather data. I don't intend to pick on the
NREL Solar Program, several of whom I consider
friends and colleagues, but their target client
is the solar power industry. Since solar power
arrays can be installed anywhere, preferably in
rural uninhabited locations, it makes sense to
go to satellite-derived solar. It's also clear
that to serve that industry, NREL would focus
its efforts on getting the best solar values,
while all the other climatic parameters, like
temperature, humidity, wind speed, etc., are
secondary, which may be why getting them from
MERRA is a satisfactory choice. The focus on
solar is also evident in the weighting used by
NREL to develop the TMYs, with 50% weight placed
on the 2 solar and 50% on the remaining 8
non-solar parameters.
</p>
<p>For the building energy community, or
priorities are somewhat different. Since 99% of
buildings are located in urban locations, we
should focus much more on climate in urban
areas. Luckily, that's also where the great
majority of existing weather are located, which
is why I'm resistant to throwing out measured
weather data and replacing them with synthetic
data, no matter how much they've been "seeded"
with real data. As for the weighting of climate
parameters in selecting the typical months, why
not use building energy simulations and weight
them by the distribution of heating and cooling
loads?
</p>
<p>Joe</p>
<pre>Joe Huang</pre>
<pre>White Box Technologies, Inc.</pre>
<pre>346 Rheem Blvd., Suite 205A</pre>
<pre>Moraga CA 94556</pre>
<pre><a href="mailto:yjhuang@whiteboxtechnologies.com" moz-do-not-send="true">yjhuang@whiteboxtechnologies.com</a></pre>
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<pre>(o) (925)388-0265</pre>
<pre>(c) (510)928-2683</pre>
<pre>"building energy simulations at your fingertips"</pre>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On 1/2/2018 9:30 AM,
Nicholas Caton wrote:</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span>Hi Joe,</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span>From your
perspective, are NREL or any other
government/professional bodies making
moves/indications to update/refresh the
current TMY3 sets to utilize
satellite-derived solar radiation? Seems
like a no-brainer for our industry, but is
there a counter-argument? It seems likely,
but has there been rigorous comparisons of
satellite-derived solar radiation against
measured values and/or our “present-day”
solar models used to derive solar radiation
information for building energy simulation?</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span>Also, I’m trying to
understand and correctly characterize the
impact of this development in simple terms
my brain can follow. Is it fair to say:
</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span>The solar models used
in developing weather files for building
energy simulations to-date in our industry
(including all/most industry-standard TMY
weather sets), because they have been using
solar radiation derived from (evolving)
solar models, have
<u>not</u> accounted for the likes of local
climate cloud cover / smog / dust? Seattle
(~47°N) has perhaps been seeing as much
sunlight through the winter as Paris
(~48°N)?</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span>Does
satellite-derived solar radiation address
some or all of these local climate issues
(cloud cover, smog, dust) affecting
direct/indirect solar radiation? </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span>Thanks sincerely for
all your teaching Joe,</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span>~Nick</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span>From:</span></b><span>
Equest-users [<a
href="mailto:equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org"
moz-do-not-send="true">mailto:equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Joe Huang via
Equest-users<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, December 14, 2017
8:13 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> BLDG-SIM <a
href="mailto:bldg-sim@lists.onebuilding.org"
moz-do-not-send="true"><bldg-sim@lists.onebuilding.org></a>;
EnergyPlus_Support
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href="mailto:EnergyPlus_Support@yahoogroups.com"
moz-do-not-send="true"><EnergyPlus_Support@yahoogroups.com></a>;
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href="mailto:equest-users@lists.onebuilding.org"
moz-do-not-send="true">equest-users@lists.onebuilding.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Equest-users] White Box
Technologies brings simulation weather
data to the satellite age</span></p>
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<p>It is with joy and some trepidation to report
that White Box Technologies (WBT) is updating
all its historical weather files with
satellite-derived solar radiation. Joy because
this overcomes what has been the most
significant question mark with weather files;
trepidation because of the amount of work
needed to carry out and maintain this effort.
To show that this is more than marketing hype,
I need to give a rather long explanation about
this development.<br>
<br>
The bane of weather data over the past three
decades has been the solar radiation (global
horizontal and direct normal) which are not
measured parameters, but derived using various
solar and sky models. All the familiar
"typical year" sets, i.e., TMY, WYEC, IWEC,
etc., let alone the historical weather files,
have modeled solar radiation. Although a lot
of<br>
work has gone into such models (see M.
Iqbal,"An Introduction to Solar Radiation",
Academic Press, 1983), there remain an almost
intractible problem of the lack of good
measured solar to tune any of these models.
For example, in the ASHRAE IWEC2 weather
files, my team was able to find one or two
years' measured data for less than 50
locations,<br>
from which were derived 28 sets of regression
coefficients then used for all 3,012 IWEC2
locations.<br>
<br>
For the past decade and a half, researchers
around the world have been working to derive
solar radiation from weather satellite
imagery, driven largely by the needs of the
solar power industry for the siting of solar
power plants and getting "bankable" solar
estimates for their arrays. Our little
building energy simulation sector can of
course benefit by hanging on the coattails of
the solar power industry, but the downside has
been to be totally priced out, since the
commercial cost for one year's solar data for
one location (grid cell) typically runs around
$1,000.<br>
<br>
A welcome development over the last five years
is that various government offices or
affiliated consortia are now beginning to also
providing access to satellite-derived solar
radiation at minimal or more acceptable costs
under various conditions. Over the past three
years, WBT has obtained access to such data
and permission for its use in WBT weather
files.<br>
WBT is now either replacing the solar
radiation on its historical weather files, or
using satellite-derived radiation to develop
custom solar coefficients for each location to
extend the satellite-derived solar to time
periods outside the available time window.
With the exception of polar locations above or
below 60/66 degrees, island nations in the
Pacific and Indian Ocean, and a few
unfortunate "blind spots", the entire land
mass is being covered with at least 10 years
up to 18 years of hourly solar records.<br>
<br>
Starting in 2018, WBT historical weather files
in the following areas will all have
satellite-derived solar radiation for the
following time periods: Europe, Africa, South
America east of 66 West, i.e., Brazil and
Uruguay (2004 to date), Australia (1999 to
date), and East Asia (2007 to date, access
pending). WBT historical weather files in the
following areas will have satellite-derived
solar radiation for the indicated time periods
- North America and Central/South American
down to 20 South (1998-2015), South Asia
(2000-2014), with modeled solar radiation from
2016 on that has been individually tuned to
the past satellite-derived solar.<br>
<br>
Another benefit to the satellite-derived solar
is to increases the number of available
weather stations, which in many places has
been limited by the lack of cloud cover data
needed to model the solar radiation. For
reasons that are not immediately identifiable,
several English-speaking Commonwealth
countries has seen a marked drop in the number
of available stations due to the decreases in
the reporting of cloud cover (see plot, ZAF =
South Africa). For example, the number of
stations in the UK has dropped by almost 2/3s
between 2001 and 2017 (174 to 64), but with
satellite-derived solar, it will go back up to
over 180, while in Australia and South Africa
the comparable numbers are from 175 to well
over 500, and from 37 to over 100,
respectively.<br>
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If interested, customers who have purchased a
historical weather files from WBT over the
past five years can get an updated weather
file at no cost. Lastly, although it will take
at least a month to update all 10,000 2017
files, it's very quick to do for any specific
location or even 50 or so locations.
Therefore, if you have an urgent request
please e-mail me and I will put that at the
beginning of the queue for that day.</p>
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<pre>Joe Huang</pre>
<pre>White Box Technologies, Inc.</pre>
<pre>346 Rheem Blvd., Suite 205A</pre>
<pre>Moraga CA 94556</pre>
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<pre>(o) (925)388-0265</pre>
<pre>(c) (510)928-2683</pre>
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