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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">This could serve as a helpful guide/reading for others, so I’ve re-attached the files for illustration (without edits).
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">This is a pretty complex project and I don’t have your familiarity Mike with what exactly it’s supposed to look like, so I’m going to make a few assumptions to illustrate the
approach.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Assuming your CAD efforts were in tip-top shape prior to importing, I’m expect the cause has something to do with a combination of non-uniform origin points during the dwg
import dialog (I can’t review/edit these without the files)… or perhaps accidental CAD panning during footprint/zoning vertex definitions. Regardless, I’m moving away from the cause in order to highlight a solution.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">I’m going to assume for this demo that the 4<sup>th</sup> shell, which seems in “in-alignment” with others, is correct and we just want to shift the two shells below it so
they perfectly overlay/underlay. I’ve indicated in green an axis to which I will demonstrate shifting the 3<sup>rd</sup> and 2<sup>nd</sup> shell onto:
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<p class="MsoNormal"><img width="833" height="491" style="width:8.677in;height:5.1145in" id="Picture_x0020_4" src="cid:image002.png@01D33079.EAB98840"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Note this procedure to determine the necessary shell position input corrections can be done at any time during or after wizard stage development, but the actual edits are “detailed”
level so will need to be applied post-wizards:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">First I’ll navigate to wizards open up the
<b>3<sup>rd </sup>shell (“1<sup>st</sup> Floor”)</b> custom footprint screen. We want this to shift a moderate amount to align with the
<b>4<sup>th</sup> shell (“2<sup>nd</sup> Floor”)</b>. Draw attentions to the drop down dialog for background overlays:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><img width="907" height="779" style="width:9.4479in;height:8.1145in" id="Picture_x0020_10" src="cid:image003.png@01D3307B.BB9AA060"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> (quick aside: If you don’t fill in a shell’s footprint with zones, you’ll find the wizards generate adiabatic walls in lieu of exterior surfaces for the “exposed”
interior zones. If that isn’t intentional, you can adjust the shell’s footprint vertices to align with your zone’s perimeters to avoid that issue. This might be deliberate for this project, but seems worth pointing out for everyone’s general edification.)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">If I select the “2<sup>nd</sup> Floor” shell in this dialog, I can observe 2 vertices I’d like to align. Note the “correct” 2<sup>nd</sup> floor is illustrated with blue lines
and has vertices you can snap to, but aren’t selectable for editing:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Note the active (Cyan-colored) vertex.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From this view, with polygon snapping turned on, you can create a new vertex from the highlighted point, and drag it to where you want that point to be on the overlaid shell
footprint. The information in the bottom of the Custom Building Footprint window will tell you exactly what that vertex’s shift is in X/Y dimensions:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Jot this information down in your physical/electronic notepad for reference.<b> E3 Shift: dX = 2.1 , dY = -5.7</b><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Rinse and repeat with the
<b>2<sup>nd</sup> Shell (“Basement”)</b>, again overlaying the “correct” <b>4<sup>th</sup> shell (“2<sup>nd</sup> Floor”)</b>:
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<p class="MsoNormal"><img width="800" height="529" style="width:8.3333in;height:5.5104in" id="Picture_x0020_18" src="cid:image001.png@01D33080.4B7B1120"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">This case is a little more extreme.
<b>E2 Shift: dX = 23.5 and dY = 1.8</b><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Armed with this info, we can confidently finish our efforts in the wizards and enter the detailed mode. From here, you can edit the FLOOR inputs for X and Y by the noted deltas:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">E2 Shift: dX = 23.5 and dY = 1.8<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">E3 Shift: dX = 2.1 , dY = -5.7<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Example:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><img width="856" height="307" style="width:8.9166in;height:3.1979in" id="Picture_x0020_19" src="cid:image010.png@01D33083.48CD4EE0"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Entering these edits as expressions as illustrated allows you to retain what the wizards generated and document / avoid human-error with your algebra if that’s of interest,
but it isn’t necessary.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Finally, check your work in 3D view – looks pretty okay!<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><img width="964" height="555" style="width:10.0416in;height:5.7812in" id="Picture_x0020_20" src="cid:image011.png@01D33085.81E10DF0"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Hope this helps!<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">~Nick<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#3A7A46">Nick Caton, P.E., BEMP</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#3A7A46"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> Michael Campbell [mailto:mcamp1206@gmail.com]
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<b>Sent:</b> Monday, September 18, 2017 10:05 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Nicholas Caton <Nicholas.Caton@schneider-electric.com><br>
<b>Cc:</b> equest-users@lists.onebuilding.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Equest-users] Issue with floors being offset in Wizard?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Thanks for the response, Nick.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Unfortunately I still seem to be having some issues.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I've done many models in the past and have never had this issue, so I'm really having a hard time figuring out what is going on.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Would someone be able to take a look at the attached files and see if you can provide any insight on how to get these floors to properly align?<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I've been trying to move each shell based on aligning common points between shells, but that isn't working the way I would hope.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">Any help is appreciated.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Thank you,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Fri, Sep 15, 2017 at 9:46 AM, Nicholas Caton <<a href="mailto:Nicholas.Caton@schneider-electric.com" target="_blank">Nicholas.Caton@schneider-electric.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">I’m sure there are multiple good approaches, but the one that works for me when I have fairly complex shell layouts
is to do the following:</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Before starting geometries in the wizards, make sure all your CAD references for multi-level buildings are origin-aligned. If you were to copy one onto another using the origin as a reference
point, the plans should should properly align.</span><o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:0in;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo1">
<span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">After the first shell, be sure to specify the following in the first screen for every subsequent shell:</span>
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<span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Position this shell: via Coordinates</span><o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:0in;mso-list:l1 level2 lfo1">
<span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Tick the box for Exact Site Coordinates</span><o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:0in;mso-list:l1 level2 lfo1">
<span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Leave X and Y at 0.0 (matching the first shell’s default)</span><o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:0in;mso-list:l1 level2 lfo1">
<span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Provide a Z value as needed to ensure the shell is the right height from the ground. Note that below grade floors for a given shell’s Z-coordinate will extend downward from that elevation.</span><o:p></o:p></li></ol>
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<span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">It’s never a bad idea to finish the wizards just to check your work in the 3D view - you can always hop back in to make corrections!</span><o:p></o:p></li></ol>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">For reference, in the event you’re ever well into detailed edits, and wish you made a different decision, these inputs
are basically replicated as FLOOR geometries. You can adjust/tweak them here and observe the results in the 3D view dynamically:</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">I suspect that because you have an “alignment” step within the wizards, you might not have your CAD files pre-aligned
as I’m recommending above. If you already have a bunch of zones traced out I’d recommend just tweaking the floor’s X/Y coordinates post-wizards until it looks about right. You could overlay your CAD files outside of eQuest to inform exactly how much of a
shift is needed.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Hope that’s a bit helpful!</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Michael Campbell via Equest-users<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, September 14, 2017 10:17 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> equest-users <<a href="mailto:equest-users@lists.onebuilding.org" target="_blank">equest-users@lists.onebuilding.org</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Equest-users] Issue with floors being offset in Wizard?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">I'm having an issue right now when drawing in the Wizard.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">I am working on a multi-story building and I am trying to line each floor up correctly when drawing the shells.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">I have selected to draw the floor directly above, and I align the CAD file with the background as it should be.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">However, when moving on to the Detailed Mode, the floors are offset and I cannot get them back to the way they were.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt">Has anyone had this issue or know of a potential solution?<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Thank you,<o:p></o:p></p>
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