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<p>Another sorry (boy, I'm turning into a sorry character...)</p>
<p>As pointed out by a friend, I made a mistake on the set-points.
Heating should be way low, like 30F and cooling be way high, like
99F, to keep the fake system from turning on. My main point,
though, is that you need to model a system in order to allow for
Natural Ventilation, or otherwise you would be modeling a
greenhouse that's liable to have very high internal temperatures.</p>
<p>Joe<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 2/17/2017 10:59 PM, Joe Huang via
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<p>I have doubts about how you're doing this. I used
to model non-conditioned buildings in Asia by using
the Residential (RESYS) system and setting the
Heating and Cooling Setpoint temperatures way below
or above the actual room temperature so that they
never come on, e.g., Heating at 99 and Cooand ,
which uses a different VENT-TEMP-SCHEDULE for the
temperature above which windows are expected to
open, e.g., 75 F, PROVIDED that the outdoor air
temperature or enthalpy is lower. To be doubly
safe, you can set the Heating and Cooling capacity
to very small numbers, like 0.1, etc., although
that's immaterial because they would never come on.</p>
<p>I don't see how you can derive unmet hours for an
unconditioned space, but you can derive the hours
above comfort, e.g., 78 F, and tabulate that. I
used to call them Heating or Cooling Discomfort
Hours :-) <br>
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<div style="font-size:12.8px;">I have the
following doubt.</div>
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<div style="font-size:12.8px;">1. This is a hostel
building. all the rooms are non ac except the
wardens cabin and the counselling room. These
two rooms have split units. </div>
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<div style="font-size:12.8px;">2. I have to model
this for thermal comfort compliance - so i need
to show that there are less unmet hours in the
building. </div>
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<div style="font-size:12.8px;">How do I go about
this?</div>
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<div style="font-size:12.8px;">What i thought was
as under,</div>
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<div style="font-size:12.8px;">1. I made the
entire model and assigned the ac and non ac
spaces as per design.</div>
<div style="font-size:12.8px;">2. I plan to put a
system in the non ac rooms, such that the CFM
generated due to ceiling fans can be put as Fan
Flow Parametres. A 12 hour fan schedule (as per
the evening + night time occupancy hours) can be
assigned to this. Other than this there will be
no input parameter assigned to this system - no
COP, no efficiency. Other than this these rooms
have to behave as non ac spaces. </div>
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<div style="font-size:12.8px;">Now my questions,</div>
<div style="font-size:12.8px;">1. Do you think
this is logical way to do?</div>
<div style="font-size:12.8px;">2. Is there any
other way to go about this?</div>
<div style="font-size:12.8px;">3. If what i have
described in point 2 is okay, while i assigning
systems what should it be? Like Sum or FNSYS or
VAVS etc? Please let me know the specifics</div>
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<div style="font-size:12.8px;">Please give me an
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