<html><head></head><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:16px"><div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1485972871809_31517">If I only control lights, i.e., lower light schedule values from 2pm to 5pm, the lighting power consumption goes down as shown in Fig1 below.</div><div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1485972871809_31517"><img class="ymail-preserve-class inline-image-guid-b2b4d704-4c62-4d3f-f4ae-4b6949268b29 rte-inline-saved-image" src="cid:Yw3UiZCRwND8mKIgyjHV" data-id="inline-image-guid-b2b4d704-4c62-4d3f-f4ae-4b6949268b29" alt="Inline image" style="width:100%;max-width:481px;max-height:289px;" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1485972871809_31706"></div><div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1485972871809_31517"> Fig 1 Light power consumption with and without light control</div><div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1485972871809_31517"><br></div><div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1485972871809_31517">What I don't understand is why the cooling consumption goes higher as shown in Fig 2, it should decrease due to decrease in lighting load.</div><div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1485972871809_31517"><br></div><div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1485972871809_31517"><img class="ymail-preserve-class inline-image-guid-f0c4821f-551e-840c-f2cb-1e0bda70683b rte-inline-saved-image img-overlay-selected" src="cid:88379073-9aee-8127-9653-b3bf3bdf0857@yahoo.com" data-id="inline-image-guid-f0c4821f-551e-840c-f2cb-1e0bda70683b" alt="Inline image" style="width:100%;max-width:481px;max-height:289px;" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1485972871809_34218"><br> Fig 2 Cooling power consumption with and without light control<br><br></div> <div class="qtdSeparateBR"><br><br></div><div class="yahoo_quoted" style="display: block;"> <div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;"> <div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;"> <div dir="ltr"><font size="2" face="Arial"> On Wednesday, February 1, 2017 4:03 PM, via Equest-users <equest-users@lists.onebuilding.org> wrote:<br></font></div> <br><br> <div class="y_msg_container">----- Forwarded Message -----<br><br>Send Equest-users mailing list submissions to<br> <a ymailto="mailto:equest-users@lists.onebuilding.org" href="mailto:equest-users@lists.onebuilding.org">equest-users@lists.onebuilding.org</a><br><br>To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit<br> <a href="http://lists.onebuilding.org/listinfo.cgi/equest-users-onebuilding.org" target="_blank">http://lists.onebuilding.org/listinfo.cgi/equest-users-onebuilding.org</a><br><br>or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to<br> <a ymailto="mailto:equest-users-request@lists.onebuilding.org" href="mailto:equest-users-request@lists.onebuilding.org">equest-users-request@lists.onebuilding.org</a><br><br>You can reach the person managing the list at<br> <a ymailto="mailto:equest-users-owner@lists.onebuilding.org" href="mailto:equest-users-owner@lists.onebuilding.org">equest-users-owner@lists.onebuilding.org</a><br><br>When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific<br>than "Re: Contents of Equest-users digest..."<br><br>Today's Topics:<br><br> 1. Re: Parametric Runs off Separate .inp File<br> (Nicholas Caton via Equest-users)<br> 2. Re: Parametric Runs off Separate .inp File<br> (Sharad Kumar via Equest-users)<br> 3. Re: High cooling consumption before lights level are<br> decreased (Sharad Kumar via Equest-users)<br><div id="yiv0944525002">
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<div class="yiv0944525002MsoNormal">New to me (not really sure why it’s grayed out), but you could try manually inserting the model reference in the PRD file for the associated run(s).
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<div class="yiv0944525002MsoNormal">Here’s an example of what that looks like in the interface (when you can access the tick box):</div>
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<div class="yiv0944525002MsoNormal">…. Versus what it looks like in the PRD file – the relevant path looks like the 7<sup>th</sup> entry following “PARAMETRIC_RUN”:</div>
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<div class="yiv0944525002MsoNormal">Also I’m 99% certain the preceding “TRUE” entry above is the state of the checkbox we’re concerned with. Set that to TRUE as well.</div>
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<div class="yiv0944525002MsoNormal">If you manually edit your PRD, then try re-opening / simulating that parametric, you’ll get a more informative error/caution to explain why it’s being disallowed in the first place. Alternatively maybe it will just get ignored and won’t
work… but worth a shot!</div>
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<div class="yiv0944525002MsoNormal"><b>On a related point:</b> I’ve been recently interested in fully deconstructing / reverse-engineering the structure of the PRD files for parametric analyses, and also understanding exactly how these inputs are leveraged to modify the
INP file (preprocessing) prior to a parametric simulation. Is anyone aware of any official/unofficial documentation already pulled together on this front?</div>
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<div class="yiv0944525002MsoNormal">~Nick</div>
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<div class="yiv0944525002MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> Equest-users [mailto:equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Rybl, Vicki via Equest-users<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, January 31, 2017 11:38 AM<br>
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<div class="yiv0944525002MsoNormal">I am trying to run a parametric run based on a separate .inp file in eQuest 3.65. However the option to switch to a different file is unavailable to me – see below. Has anyone come across this issue before? Any tips on how to fix it?</div>
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</div><div id="yiv0944525002"><div dir="ltr"><font color="#073763">Hi Vicki,</font><div><font color="#073763"><br></font></div><div><font color="#660000">Sorry to all users and Fred if i was harsh in the last mail.</font></div><div><span style="color:rgb(102,0,0);"><br></span></div><div><span style="color:rgb(102,0,0);">Vicki:</span><br></div><div><div><font color="#073763"><br></font></div><div><font color="#073763">You can use different runs for separate files.</font></div><div><font color="#073763">For example the first run in your case is 90.1 -2010 Baseline.</font></div><div><font color="#073763">You can create a different parametric run which will be Label-2 and shall run on the same .inp file Baseline run of the same project.</font></div><div><font color="#073763">So you will have to keep the same Run Based On: Baseline run with the Label-2 and another parametric run which will run on another .inp file.</font></div><div><font color="#073763"><br></font></div><div><font color="#660000"><b><br></b></font></div><div><font color="#660000"><b>Thanks,</b></font></div><div><b><font color="#0b5394">Sharad. Kumar</font></b></div><div><b><font color="#0b5394"><br></font></b></div><div><br>---------- Forwarded message ----------<br>From: "Rybl, Vicki via Equest-users" <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:equest-users@lists.onebuilding.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:equest-users@lists.onebuilding.org">equest-users@lists.onebuilding.org</a>><br>To: "<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:equest-users@lists.onebuilding.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:equest-users@lists.onebuilding.org">equest-users@lists.onebuilding.org</a>" <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:equest-users@lists.onebuilding.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:equest-users@lists.onebuilding.org">equest-users@lists.onebuilding.org</a>><br>Cc: <br>Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2017 17:37:35 +0000<br>Subject: [Equest-users] Parametric Runs off Separate .inp File<br><div lang="EN-US"><div class="yiv0944525002gmail-m_-2670458402529136703WordSection1"><div class="yiv0944525002MsoNormal">Hi All,<u></u><u></u></div><div class="yiv0944525002MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></div><div class="yiv0944525002MsoNormal">I am trying to run a parametric run based on a separate .inp file in eQuest 3.65. However the option to switch to a different file is unavailable to me – see below. Has anyone come across this issue before? Any tips on how to fix it?<u></u><u></u></div><div class="yiv0944525002MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></div><div class="yiv0944525002MsoNormal"><img width="682" height="127" id="yiv0944525002gmail-m_-2670458402529136703Picture_x0020_1" src="cid:image001.png@01D27BBE.CC049220"><u></u><u></u></div><div class="yiv0944525002MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></div><div class="yiv0944525002MsoNormal">Thanks!<u></u><u></u></div><div class="yiv0944525002MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></div><div class="yiv0944525002MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10pt;">Vicki Rybl | Energy Engineer<u></u><u></u></span></div><div class="yiv0944525002MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10pt;color:rgb(31,73,125);">RDK Engineers<u></u><u></u></span></b></div><div class="yiv0944525002MsoNormal"><span lang="IT" style="font-size:10pt;">Seaport Center<u></u><u></u></span></div><div class="yiv0944525002MsoNormal"><span lang="IT" style="font-size:10pt;">70 Fargo Street, Suite 800<u></u><u></u></span></div><div class="yiv0944525002MsoNormal"><span lang="IT" style="font-size:10pt;">Boston, MA 02210<u></u><u></u></span></div><div class="yiv0944525002MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10pt;">P: (857) 221-5943 | F: (617) 345-4226<u></u><u></u></span></div><div class="yiv0944525002MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10pt;"><a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:vrybl@rdkengineers.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:vrybl@rdkengineers.com"><span style="color:rgb(5,99,193);">vrybl@rdkengineers.com</span></a> <span style="color:rgb(47,84,150);"> </span></span><b><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125);"><u></u><u></u></span></b></div><div class="yiv0944525002MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></div></div></div><div class="yiv0944525002gmail_extra"><br></div></div></div></div></div><div id="yiv0944525002"><div dir="ltr"><div lang="EN-US">Hi Fakeha,</div><div lang="EN-US"><br></div><div><font color="#660000">This is the second mail today.</font></div><div><br></div><div><font color="#073763">You might be knowing that when you decrease the lighting schedule the lighting load decreases so as the heating part of lighting load.</font></div><div><font color="#073763">There is no normal reason behind what are the real factors causing it.</font></div><div><font color="#073763">Following can be the cases:</font></div><div><font color="#073763"><br></font></div><div><font color="#073763">1. Due to low cooling set-point as well as higher lighting fraction schedule there can be easy way to know why there is higher cooling energy.</font></div><div><font color="#073763"><br></font></div><div><font color="#073763">2. Maybe as the lighting fraction and the cooling set-points are matching in the case of 2 pm to 5 pm to have the low cooling consumption.</font></div><div><font color="#073763"><br></font></div><div><font color="#073763">3. May be the duration between 11 am and 2 pm is the time where there is too much possibility to have the higher cooling consumption as the condition matches to have the higher cooling load but you are unable to resolve it so might be it depends upon your model or something so that in this case of 11 am to 2 pm the cooling consumption is higher.</font></div><div><font color="#073763"><br></font></div><div><font color="#073763">4. Another reason can be that there can be the possibility in this case that the duration, schedule, time ans set-point is such that that it is able to have the cooling consumption going higher in this case.</font></div><div><font color="#073763"><br></font></div><div><font color="#073763">I'm unable to predict more but others can may help.</font></div><div><font color="#660000"><b><br></b></font></div><div><font color="#660000"><b>Thanks,</b></font></div><div><font color="#073763"><b>Sharad.Kumar</b></font></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>---------- Forwarded message ----------<br></div><div>From: Fakeha Sehar via Equest-users <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:equest-users@lists.onebuilding.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:equest-users@lists.onebuilding.org">equest-users@lists.onebuilding.org</a>><br>To: via Equest-users <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:equest-users@lists.onebuilding.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:equest-users@lists.onebuilding.org">equest-users@lists.onebuilding.org</a>><br>Cc: <br>Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2017 18:41:50 +0000 (UTC)<br>Subject: [Equest-users] High cooling consumption before lights level are decreased<br><div><div style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:helveticaneue,;font-size:16px;"><div id="yiv0944525002gmail-m_-7680626759214219061yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1485887799222_3446">Hi,</div><div id="yiv0944525002gmail-m_-7680626759214219061yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1485887799222_3425"><br></div><div id="yiv0944525002gmail-m_-7680626759214219061yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1485887799222_3409">When I raise my building's cooling set points from 2pm to 5pm,I observe for a summer day that the cooling consumption goes low during this time; which is fine. Now when I reduce the lighting schedule values (in order to reduce the lighting load) from 2pm to 5pm lighting consumption goes low during this time but for some reason the cooling consumption gets higher before around 11am to 2pm, why?</div><div id="yiv0944525002gmail-m_-7680626759214219061yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1485887799222_3409"><br></div><div id="yiv0944525002gmail-m_-7680626759214219061yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1485887799222_3409">Regards</div><div><br></div></div></div></div></div></div><br>_______________________________________________<br>Equest-users mailing list<br><a ymailto="mailto:Equest-users@lists.onebuilding.org" href="mailto:Equest-users@lists.onebuilding.org">Equest-users@lists.onebuilding.org</a><br><a href="http://lists.onebuilding.org/listinfo.cgi/equest-users-onebuilding.org" target="_blank">http://lists.onebuilding.org/listinfo.cgi/equest-users-onebuilding.org</a><br><br><br></div> </div> </div> </div></div></body></html>