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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:windowtext">Jeff/Brian, thanks very much for helping to clarify!<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:windowtext"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:windowtext">So I reckon Daric’s query is mostly answered at this stage (there are at least a couple quirky workarounds to making W and S function as in previous builds).
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:windowtext">Hopefully this thread is clear enough documentation for the developers to log in their “honey do” list, as well.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:windowtext"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:windowtext">I’m still interested to find out if there’s a trick to switch up some of the default settings for 3d views in the .INI settings, though.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:windowtext">~Nick<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="color:windowtext">From:</span></b><span style="color:windowtext"> Equest-users [mailto:equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Jeff Ross-Bain via Equest-users<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, November 01, 2016 2:18 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> equest-users (equest-users@lists.onebuilding.org) <equest-users@lists.onebuilding.org><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Equest-users] eQuest 3.65 build 7173 - Wire frame mode<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:windowtext">Also…<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:windowtext">If you minimize the Equest window, then open it back up…the W button works for wire view!<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:windowtext">I wonder how many Equest quirks are out there, unknown, and lurking in the shadows….<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="color:windowtext">From:</span></b><span style="color:windowtext"> Equest-users [<a href="mailto:equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org">mailto:equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Brian Fountain via Equest-users<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, November 1, 2016 2:36 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> <br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Equest-users] eQuest 3.65 build 7173 - Wire frame mode<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">Do not ask me why but in 7173, if you first turn off the Color Legend then W and S will work in 3D mode.<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On 01/11/2016 2:25 PM, Nicholas Caton via Equest-users wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Ohhh – that’s news to me - cool feature!<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Confirming for you, since have both builds at-hand: These “W” and “S” hotkeys to toggle wireframe in the 3D Geometry view *<b>DO</b>* work in 3.65 build 7163. They do *<b>NOT</b>* work in 3.65 build 7173.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Both our queries remain active, I suppose…<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#3A7A46">Nick Caton, P.E., BEMP</span></b><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> Daric Adair [<a href="mailto:Daric.Adair@hei-eng.com">mailto:Daric.Adair@hei-eng.com</a>]
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<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, November 01, 2016 12:43 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Nicholas Caton <a href="mailto:Nicholas.Caton@schneider-electric.com">
<Nicholas.Caton@schneider-electric.com></a><br>
<b>Cc:</b> equest-users <a href="mailto:equest-users@lists.onebuilding.org"><equest-users@lists.onebuilding.org></a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: eQuest 3.65 build 7173 - Wire frame mode<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">I knew about the rotate going wire fame. Not what I’m after. In 3D mode, if you hit “W” is gives a wireframe view (see attached). “S” goes ‘solid’. Image is from 3.64, but I thought 3.65 7163 still had this,
but could be wrong. 3.65 7173 apparently doesn’t?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">No worries on the tag-on question Nick. All part of it.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Thanks,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> Nicholas Caton [<a href="mailto:Nicholas.Caton@schneider-electric.com">mailto:Nicholas.Caton@schneider-electric.com</a>]
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<b>Subject:</b> RE: eQuest 3.65 build 7173 - Wire frame mode<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Holding ctrl and left-click/dragging (i.e. the way you’d “orbit” the view) is how I’m used to peeking at the wireframe. Doesn’t seem like this has changed between 7163 and 7173.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">If there’s a way to make it always wireframe (when not manipulating the 3D view angle), I’m not sure I remember experiencing that. Would be interesting to learn!<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I have a related query however (sorry for layering onto your thread, Daric!):<o:p></o:p></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]>By default, every project has “Base Wire Frame” setting for the 3DManipulationMethod setting. I sometimes remember that it’s advantageous for QC review of geometries to instead choose the 2<sup>nd</sup> option (this renders windows
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</span></span></span><![endif]>Observation: If you select something other than the default, that setting lives in the *.pd2 file:<o:p></o:p></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]>The question: Is there a way to make “Full Wire Frame (all components)” the *<b>default</b>* 3D manipulation rendering setting?<o:p></o:p></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]>It would seem to be the case as a selectable option within the eQ_Dev.ini file (located in the eQUEST data directory):<o:p></o:p></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]>The eQUEST.INI file includes a setting for 3DRenderMethod, but switching that value to 1 (“multiple cells”) has apparent no effect on new projects:<o:p></o:p></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]>I also tried pasting in the 3DMainipulationMethod from eQ_Dev.ini (and removing the semicolon), to no apparent effect:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">~Nick<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> Equest-users [<a href="mailto:equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org">mailto:equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org</a>]
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<b>Subject:</b> [Equest-users] eQuest 3.65 build 7173 - Wire frame mode<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Previously a wire frame version of the model could be see/switching to. Wire Frame vs solid walls. Did this get removed or what’s the trick/hot-key to getting this?<o:p></o:p></p>
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