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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Hello,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I think I might be able to answer at least a portion of the question. Right now, you seem to be switching between the wizards, and detailed mode. In eQuest, I am not aware of any method of adding coal meters through the wizard, but I can help with adding coal to a model in detailed mode. Just as a warning, if you switch from detailed mode back into the wizards, all of the changes you made in detailed mode will be reversed. So, make sure you have everything you wanted to do in the wizard mode finished before you dive into detailed mode. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>You can switch into the detailed editing mode using the main dropdown menu.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> <img width=388 height=114 id="Picture_x0020_10" src="cid:image005.png@01D1C161.B70AECB0"> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Once you’re in detailed mode, under the “Utility and Economics” tab, you can find all of the meters that you have for your building. eQuest will generate an electric meter (EM1) and a natural gas meter (FM1), that can be found in the component tree on the left hand side. Right click on the Fuel Meters folder, and select “Create Fuel Meter” <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><img width=326 height=68 id="Picture_x0020_29" src="cid:image006.png@01D1C162.164DD390"></span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Select coal meter from the dropdown for meter type. In this example I chose to re-name it “Coal Meter”<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><img width=462 height=317 id="Picture_x0020_67" src="cid:image007.png@01D1C163.42C36600"></span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Now that there is a meter for coal, I can assign the boiler to run on coal. Under the “Water-Side” HVAC tab, select the boiler(s) that you want to assign to run on coal. Under the “Fuel Meter” dropdown menu, select the coal meter you just created, and click done. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><img width=742 height=551 id="Picture_x0020_143" src="cid:image008.png@01D1C163.FD7FF6C0"></span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Now whenever you run the building simulation, your boiler will be using coal as its fuel source. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I hope that helps,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Greg<o:p></o:p></span></p><table class=MsoNormalTable border=0 cellpadding=0 width=620 style='width:465.0pt'><tr><td width=220 valign=bottom style='width:165.0pt;padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt'><p class=MsoNormalCxSpMiddle style='margin-top:7.5pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#57B069'>Greg Hildner, EIT, EMIT</span><span style='font-size:8.0pt;color:#1F497D'><br></span><span style='font-size:8.0pt;color:#626469'>Energy Engineer<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormalCxSpMiddle style='margin-top:7.5pt'><span style='font-size:8.0pt;color:#626469'>Energy and Sustainability Services</span><span style='font-size:8.0pt;color:#1F497D'><br></span><span style='font-size:8.0pt;color:#626469'>Global Solutions <o:p></o:p></span></p></td><td width=220 valign=bottom style='width:165.0pt;padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-top:7.5pt'><span style='font-size:8.0pt;color:#57B069'>D </span><span style='font-size:8.0pt;color:#626469'>(913) 564-6358</span><span style='font-size:8.0pt;color:#1F497D'><br></span><span style='font-size:8.0pt;color:#57B069'>M </span><span style='font-size:8.0pt;color:#626469'>(630) 380-4709</span><span style='font-size:8.0pt;color:#1F497D'><br></span><span style='font-size:8.0pt;color:#57B069'>E </span><span style='font-size:8.0pt;color:#626469'><a href="mailto:greg.hildner@schneider-electric.com"><span style='color:#626469'>greg.hildner@schneider-electric.com</span></a></span><span style='font-size:8.0pt;color:#1F497D'><br></span><span style='font-size:8.0pt;color:#57B069'>F </span><span style='font-size:8.0pt;color:#626469'>(913) 564-6380</span><span style='font-size:8.0pt;color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p></td><td width=180 valign=bottom style='width:135.0pt;padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt'><p class=MsoNormal align=right style='margin-top:7.5pt;text-align:right'><span style='font-size:8.0pt;color:#626469'>15200 Santa Fe Trail Dr<br>Suite 204<br>Lenexa, Kansas<br>United States</span><span style='font-size:8.0pt;color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p></td></tr></table><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;display:none'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><table class=MsoNormalTable border=0 cellpadding=0 width=620 style='width:465.0pt'><tr><td width=350 valign=top style='width:262.5pt;padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt'></td><td style='padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt'></td></tr></table><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Equest-users [mailto:equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Tugçin Kirant via Equest-users<br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, June 08, 2016 3:39 AM<br><b>To:</b> Nicholas Caton; jra_sac@yahoo.com; dberty@baselineenergyconsulting.com<br><b>Cc:</b> equest-users@lists.onebuilding.org<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Equest-users] Boiler Fuel Type / Hot Water Pipe Properties<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Hello again,<o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>First of all, i wanna thank all of you for your interests. <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><u><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>For pipe losses</span></u><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> i will use your method Nicholas. It sounds as a reasonable solution for my problem.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>However, I have problems about fuel type, still. When I click fuel type to change it to coal, it gives me warning as in picture:<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div id=inlineImage1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><img border=0 width=716 height=378 id="_x0000_i1025" src="cid:image001.jpg@01D1C15D.50F8FFB0"><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><br>and i say ok. Then it gives me another warning :<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div id=inlineImage2><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><img border=0 width=714 height=378 id="_x0000_i1026" src="cid:image002.jpg@01D1C15D.50F8FFB0"><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>again i say ok to see what will happen and simulate it. As a result it doesnt give the results and the error is:<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div id=inlineImage3><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><img border=0 width=567 height=89 id="_x0000_i1027" src="cid:image003.jpg@01D1C15D.50F8FFB0"><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>As i mentioned before, on the HW plant Equipment settings, it just gives me option for natural gas :/ I attached the picture below again:<o:p></o:p></span></p><div id=inlineImage4><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><img border=0 width=765 height=404 id="_x0000_i1028" src="cid:image004.jpg@01D1C15D.50F8FFB0"><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>I suppose that because of this, it doesnt calculate for coal, even i changed it on Utility&Economics section.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><br><br><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Do you have any idea about this?<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><br><br><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Sincerely.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><br><br><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Ms. H. Tuğçin KIRANT<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><br><br><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><hr size=2 width="100%" align=center id=stopSpelling></span></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Subject: RE: [Equest-users] Boiler Fuel Type / Hot Water Pipe Properties<br>Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2016 17:30:59 -0500<br>From: <a href="mailto:Nicholas.Caton@schneider-electric.com">Nicholas.Caton@schneider-electric.com</a><br>To: <a href="mailto:jra_sac@yahoo.com">jra_sac@yahoo.com</a>; <a href="mailto:dberty@baselineenergyconsulting.com">dberty@baselineenergyconsulting.com</a>; <a href="mailto:kasruko@hotmail.com">kasruko@hotmail.com</a><br>CC: <a href="mailto:equest-users@lists.onebuilding.org">equest-users@lists.onebuilding.org</a><o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I might add something contrarian, but this does require getting past wizards and into detailed edits per John’s advice:</span><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>eQuest can certainly be used to assess distribution losses. If you are willing/able to determine a reasonable assessment of pipe area and average insulation level (U*A), eQuest can actually determine on an hourly basis the losses in that circulation loop (U*A*dT). For this you can choose between a few different loop “locations” which will vary how the delta in temperatures is assessed each hour. Suggest further reading up on the inputs located here in detailed mode:</span><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><img border=0 width=604 height=309 id="ecxPicture_x0020_2" src="https://dub120.afx.ms/att/GetInline.aspx?messageid=870614db-2cff-11e6-9165-6c3be5a7fac0&attindex=5&cp=-1&attdepth=5&imgsrc=cid%3aimage004.png%4001D1C0E0.32294DB0&cid=4983548c8fe59b7a&shared=1&hm__login=kasruko&hm__domain=hotmail.com&ip=10.111.8.8&d=d4401&mf=0&hm__ts=Wed%2c%2008%20Jun%202016%2008%3a18%3a32%20GMT&st=%28000640008EE50EFB%29&hm__ha=01_71ce6bf2a4d71742edf2d88c5468866f41e8873955c6f7f37911b24ce03198c5&oneredir=1"></span><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Fair counterpoint: piping/distribution losses are (for reasonable reasons) deliberately excluded from common modes of code compliance simulation and the performance rating method (i.e. LEED, Appendix G), which are generally focused upon “design side” simulation/validation modeling and typically are trying to avoid such realities in an effort to minimize “arbitrary” penalization (i.e. why must my distributed campus with necessarily larger distribution losses have a harder go at meeting threshold XYZ?). In turn such inputs don’t get a ton of attention from that side of our industry.</span><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Further, once you’re looking at the “rainbow reports,” note the “gas” consumption/demand charts really more generically mean to reference “Fuel.” The numbers should be analogous (if with slightly different rounding sometimes) to the PS-E report for “all fuel meters,” IIRC.</span><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>You can also directly edit those titles for presentation if need be by right-clicking the chart for a context menu – it’s in one of the tabs there ;).</span><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><img border=0 width=664 height=497 id="ecxPicture_x0020_5" src="https://dub120.afx.ms/att/GetInline.aspx?messageid=870614db-2cff-11e6-9165-6c3be5a7fac0&attindex=7&cp=-1&attdepth=7&imgsrc=cid%3aimage005.png%4001D1C0E2.39CB6D30&cid=4983548c8fe59b7a&shared=1&hm__login=kasruko&hm__domain=hotmail.com&ip=10.111.8.8&d=d4401&mf=0&hm__ts=Wed%2c%2008%20Jun%202016%2008%3a18%3a32%20GMT&st=%28000640008EE50EFB%29&hm__ha=01_25216ef73573e4e533b352dc9df2cebc46a9b918a4ac5c5ae0ff9f66220412ee&oneredir=1"></span><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span 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align=right style='text-align:right'><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#626469'>15200 Santa Fe Trail Drive<br>Suite 204<br>Lenexa, KS 66219<br>United States</span><o:p></o:p></p></td></tr><tr style='height:4.0pt'><td width=724 colspan=3 valign=top style='width:543.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 0in;height:4.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-line-height-alt:4.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#3A7A46'><img border=0 width=722 height=49 id="ecxPicture_x0020_3" src="https://dub120.afx.ms/att/GetInline.aspx?messageid=870614db-2cff-11e6-9165-6c3be5a7fac0&attindex=1&cp=-1&attdepth=1&imgsrc=cid%3aimage001.png%4001D1C0DF.3FB854E0&cid=4983548c8fe59b7a&shared=1&hm__login=kasruko&hm__domain=hotmail.com&ip=10.111.8.8&d=d4401&mf=0&hm__ts=Wed%2c%2008%20Jun%202016%2008%3a18%3a32%20GMT&st=%28000640008EE50EFB%29&hm__ha=01_feb17dd7040c5e18688792353ff405d71a20bea310dbf2453a7e9b033bc24a19&oneredir=1" alt="cid:image001.png@01D189AB.58634A10"></span><o:p></o:p></p></td></tr></table><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Equest-users [<a href="mailto:equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org">mailto:equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>John Aulbach via Equest-users<br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, June 07, 2016 11:59 AM<br><b>To:</b> David Berty; Tuğçin Kırant<br><b>Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:equest-users@lists.onebuilding.org">equest-users@lists.onebuilding.org</a><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Equest-users] Boiler Fuel Type / Hot Water Pipe Properties</span><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><div><div id="ecxyui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1465316534057_26037"><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'>Sir:</span><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id="ecxyui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1465316534057_25737"><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'> </span><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id="ecxyui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1465316534057_25599"><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'>If you are familiar with the DETAIL-EDIT mode, place your project in that Mode (after making a copy of it to stay in Wizard mode) - by all means give it another name to avoid confusion.</span><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id="ecxyui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1465316534057_25599"><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'> </span><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id="ecxyui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1465316534057_25599"><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'>On the Horizontal Tab that says UTILITIES and ECONOMICS, you can then go to the tree hierarchy on the left side of the page. Go to subfolder FUEL-METER and click on. The main screen now displays FUEL-METER attributes. Now if you click FUel Meter Type, Coal will appear. Make sure the Btu/unit is what you expect from your Coal, as i understand there are several types in use.</span><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id="ecxyui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1465316534057_25599"><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'> </span><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id="ecxyui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1465316534057_25599"><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'>Hope this helps.</span><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id="ecxyui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1465316534057_25599"><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'> </span><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id="ecxyui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1465316534057_25599"><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'>John R. Aulbach, PE</span><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id="ecxyui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1465316534057_25599"><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'>Los Angeles, CA </span><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'> </span><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>On Tuesday, June 7, 2016 7:03 AM, David Berty via Equest-users <<a href="mailto:equest-users@lists.onebuilding.org">equest-users@lists.onebuilding.org</a>> wrote:</span><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'> </span><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p><div><div id=ecxyiv3264156187><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>I don't personally know the answer to your question on the fuel source coal vs. natural gas.</span><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>Regarding the 2nd question on simulation of piping pressure and thermal losses; these modelling software programs do not model these energy losses. They don't "care" where your central utility plant is physically located in relation to your load. They make the assumption that you have properly sized pipelines, insulation etc. EQuest is only attempting to estimate the fuel consumption of meeting the building's heating and cooling load, not assess the pipe sizing and insulation condition.</span><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>David Berty, P.E.<br>Baseline Energy Consulting<br>317.220.9272</span><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>On Jun 7, 2016 9:18 AM, "Tu</span><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>ğ</span><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>çin K</span><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>ı</span><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>rant" <<a href="mailto:equest-users@lists.onebuilding.org" target="_blank">equest-users@lists.onebuilding.org</a>> wrote:</span><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p><div id=ecxyiv3264156187yqt75238><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>Hi everyone :)</span><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'> </span><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>I am a new user and modelling a district heating system. Probably my questions are easy, but i couldnt solve the problems.</span><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'> </span><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>1- I define boiler but the fuel type must be coal. However, Equest doesnt let me get the results for coal. It simulates as natural gas. Even i create new fuel meter for coal and select it on boil properties. How can i get the results for coal? (Maybe it is related to pic1. But there is no other choice except Natural Gas )</span><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'> </span><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'> </span><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><img border=0 width=514 height=368 id="ecx_x005f_x0000_i1025" src="https://dub120.afx.ms/att/GetInline.aspx?messageid=870614db-2cff-11e6-9165-6c3be5a7fac0&attindex=3&cp=-1&attdepth=3&imgsrc=cid%3aimage003.jpg%4001D1C0DF.3FB854E0&cid=4983548c8fe59b7a&shared=1&hm__login=kasruko&hm__domain=hotmail.com&ip=10.111.8.8&d=d4401&mf=0&hm__ts=Wed%2c%2008%20Jun%202016%2008%3a18%3a32%20GMT&st=%28000640008EE50EFB%29&hm__ha=01_39d6ece2837a799f0982e8fe2a3d17bf8ebab93b4d7119e6dd83dce5331ce724&oneredir=1"></span><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'> </span><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'> 2- As i mentioned before, this is a district heating system and there are 6 residential villas. Combined Heat Power Plant supplies the hot water and it is located very far away. I wanna see the effect of pipe lenght, dimension and insulataion material of the hot water pipes. So, how can i enter the pipes and their properties?</span><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'> </span><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'> </span><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>Sincerely.</span><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'> </span><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>H. 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