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    Nice Bill.<br>
    I don't do LEED or have many clients that really want to explore
    getting the most out of a model or an energy efficient design.  Just
    down and dirty, first cost.<br>
    So most of my stuff is dummy DD wizard baseline.  Typically start in
    the 5 to 6 MB SIM Baseline range and after a multitude of runs top
    out in the 7.2 to 7.8 MB in 3-64.  I had a 3-63 over 8.<br>
    I do keep everything start to finish though.<br>
    Bruce Easterbrook P.Eng.<br>
    Abode Engineering<br>
    <br>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 18/12/2015 3:31 PM, Bishop, Bill
      wrote:<br>
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        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Hi Nick,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">I’m working on
            a rather complex project right now – an existing building
            consisting of multiple additions. The model has 31 shells
            and 510 zones (including plenum zones), and that’s after we
            did some floor multipliers and other things to keep it from
            being too big. It has a 28.6 MB, 7622 page SIM file, and
            that’s with no extra hourly reports.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">~Bill<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
                style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Franklin
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                Bishop, PE, BEMP, BEAP, CEM, LEED AP
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                Engineers & Architects LLP<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
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                        Energy Engineer<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
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                      South Fitzhugh Street</span><span
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                    </span><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;line-height:105%;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Rochester,
                      NY 14608<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:9.0pt;line-height:105%;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#002060">T:
                          (585) 698-1956</span></i></b><b><i><span
                          style="color:#002060">             
                        </span></i></b><span style="color:#1F497D">          </span><span
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                      (585) 325-6005</span><span
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style="font-size:9.0pt;line-height:105%;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:blue"><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.pathfinder-ea.com">www.pathfinder-ea.com</a></span></a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                        border="0" height="40" width="42"></span><span
                      style="font-size:7.5pt;line-height:105%;color:#00B0F0">Carbon

                      Fee and Dividend - simple, effective, and
                      market-based.</span><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> Equest-users
              [<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org">mailto:equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org</a>]
              <b>On Behalf Of </b>Nicholas Caton<br>
              <b>Sent:</b> Friday, December 18, 2015 2:54 PM<br>
              <b>To:</b> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:equest-users@lists.onebuilding.org">equest-users@lists.onebuilding.org</a><br>
              <b>Subject:</b> [Equest-users] Who has a big SIM?<o:p></o:p></p>
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        <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060">Hey everyone!</span><o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060">I have an
            oddball request:  can anybody share from experience how
            large SIM files can grow in size within your normal, “real
            world” usage of eQUEST/doe2? 
          </span><o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060">By “real world
            usage,” I don’t mean to ask how big SIM’s can get when
            you’re
            <i>trying</i> to make them big... Rather just what size of
            SIM file represents your own “worst-case” scenario.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060">I’m asking
            because I’m working on testing out a few different
            strategies for parsing SIM outputs to weed out a
            particularly efficient approach (with Python).  I’d like to
            get my hands on or to generate a suitable “worst case test
            case” with which to evaluate my efforts.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060">Some
            observations:</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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          style="text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2"><!--[if !supportLists]--><span
            style="font-family:Symbol"><span style="mso-list:Ignore">·<span
                style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">       
              </span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span
            style="color:#002060">The most complex project I’ve worked
            on in recent memory clocks in around 24.7 MB.   Sadly, as a
            practice I usually strip out and delete all output files
            when I conclude a project to save on disk space, so I don’t
            have a lot of existing SIM examples lying around to simply
            check.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoListParagraph"
          style="text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2"><!--[if !supportLists]--><span
            style="font-family:Symbol"><span style="mso-list:Ignore">·<span
                style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">       
              </span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span
            style="color:#002060">A “dummy” DD wizard model with zero
            detailed edits generates a SIM weighting about 6 MB</span><o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoListParagraph"
          style="text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2"><!--[if !supportLists]--><span
            style="font-family:Symbol"><span style="mso-list:Ignore">·<span
                style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">       
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            style="color:#002060">It appears Custom Hourly reports add
            approximately 1.5 to 2 MB apiece (+365 pages in the SIM
            file)</span><o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060">Thanks,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060">~Nick</span><o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
              style="font-size:14.0pt;color:#002060">NICK CATON, P.E.</span></b><span
style="font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><br>
          </span><b><span style="color:#561782">Owner</span></b><o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="color:#561782"> </span></b><o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
              style="font-size:10.0pt;color:#561782">Caton Energy
              Consulting</span></b><span
            style="font-size:10.0pt;color:black"><br>
          </span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:#1F497D">  306 N
            Ferrel</span><o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
            style="font-size:10.0pt;color:#1F497D">  Olathe, KS  66061</span><o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
            style="font-size:10.0pt;color:#1F497D">  office: 
            785.410.3317</span><o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
            style="font-size:10.0pt;color:#561782"><a
              moz-do-not-send="true" href="www.catonenergy.com"><span
                style="color:#561782"><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.catonenergy.com">www.catonenergy.com</a></span></a></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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