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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Excellent explanation Nick. Thank you!<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext"> Equest-users [mailto:equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Nicholas Caton<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, October 12, 2015 6:24 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> equest-users@lists.onebuilding.org<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Eric Fischel J.; juan.sanabria@cts-cr.com<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Equest-users] Demand Direct Process Load<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060">Y’know, I’ve long thought this is something we as a community could use a illustrated reference/guide on. The recent ASHRAE energy simulation conference in Atlanta fueled me with some community supporting spirit,
so let’s tackle that!</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060">For those who have already figured out this puzzle: some elements are like an onion, and you may not have uncovered all the layers (you too might find this worth a read)! I’m going to do conclude with some
‘best practice’ advice for LEED model documentation. That’s sure to be different from others smarter than myself, and it may prove helpful on the developers side as well for further developing eQUEST’s capacity for aiding with LEED reporting. I very much
encourage discussion!</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060">Let’s start with some extra context based on my understanding of the “problem:”</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060">Based on my personal exposure to GBCI review commentary over the past year or so, the LEED reviewership body seems to have adopted a general policy of “spot checking” various reported inputs by approximating
“equivalent full load hours” (also coined “FLE hours”). Essentially, the idea is by dividing a given enduse’s annual consumption by the corresponding peak demand (i.e. kWh/kW = h), you can get a sense of whether the associated annual operations are nonsensical
or else require further clarification. From a review perspective (or for internal QC & model development), this is a fantastic “back-of-envelope” check to keep handy for evaluation of results. I choose a word as strong as “fantastic,” because there are precious
few QC checks that can be performed so rapidly & directly within the eQUEST user interface, without jumping into custom hourly and SIM reports (the natural progression if this suggests symptoms of a bigger issue).</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060">In a perfect world, this sort of check would never lead to misunderstandings. There are however a number of pitfalls on both the reviewing and receiving ends that can lead to “false positives” for model input
problems, not the least of which is an incomplete/incorrect understanding of the nuances between what the eQUEST interface (“rainbow”) reports, SIM reports, and LEED CSV output reports are actually telling us in terms of peak demands.
</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060">So here for consideration are a series of output screenshot excerpts I’ll refer to for a single simulation run. I have cropped/isolated/highlighted content to focus the discussion on a single end-use (space
cooling). I have also deliberately selected a LEED submission project for illustration which isn’t the simplest case**, so that we can cover additional sides of the issue you won’t encounter under every project:</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoListParagraph" style="text-indent:-.25in"><span style="font-family:Symbol;color:#002060">·</span><span style="font-size:7.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:#002060">
</span><span style="color:#002060">Monthly Peak Demand by Enduse (rainbow report):</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoListParagraph"><img border="0" width="839" height="461" id="_x0000_i1025" src="cid:image016.png@01D10595.2AB36180" alt="cid:image010.png@01D0FF84.373831E0"><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoListParagraph"><span style="color:#002060"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoListParagraph" style="text-indent:-.25in"><span style="font-family:Symbol;color:#002060">·</span><span style="font-size:7.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:#002060">
</span><span style="color:#002060">The above rainbow report illustrates a situation where the annual peak is not clear, due to automated rounding. 0.47 MW is indicated for space cooling for both May and August. The ‘rainbow reports’ for consumption/demand
reference the same information written to an output file whose name ends with “_EG_MoEU_ED.csv” in the project directory (*). Following is an excerpt which comes from the corresponding CSV, and shows the monthly maximum values before rounding. We can see
more clearly the highest monthly peak value for space cooling occurs in August:</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoListParagraph"><img border="0" width="977" height="43" id="Picture_x0020_12" src="cid:image017.png@01D10595.2AB36180" alt="cid:image018.png@01D0FF75.0CB59E30"><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoListParagraph"><span style="color:#002060"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoListParagraph" style="text-indent:-.25in"><span style="font-family:Symbol;color:#002060">·</span><span style="font-size:7.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:#002060">
</span><span style="color:#002060">Here is the PS-E SIM report for all Electric Meters – I’ve added some annotations/highlighting for clarity:</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoListParagraph"><img border="0" width="701" height="1027" id="Picture_x0020_14" src="cid:image018.png@01D10595.2AB36180" alt="cid:image013.png@01D0FF7D.8C829F70"><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoListParagraph" style="text-indent:-.25in"><span style="font-family:Symbol;color:#002060">·</span><span style="font-size:7.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:#002060">
</span><span style="color:#002060">The PS-F SIM report <u>for EM1</u>:</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoListParagraph"><img border="0" width="701" height="1071" id="Picture_x0020_15" src="cid:image019.png@01D10595.2AB36180" alt="cid:image017.png@01D0FF7D.8C829F70"><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoListParagraph" style="text-indent:-.25in"><span style="font-family:Symbol;color:#002060">·</span><span style="font-size:7.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:#002060">
</span><span style="color:#002060">Finally, to complete the picture of probable misunderstandings, let’s also consider the summary excerpt from the current File
</span><span style="font-family:Wingdings">à</span><span style="color:#002060"> Export File
</span><span style="font-family:Wingdings">à</span><span style="color:#002060"> LEED Results (CSV)… feature:</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoListParagraph"><img border="0" width="461" height="290" id="Picture_x0020_8" src="cid:image020.png@01D10595.2AB36180" alt="cid:image024.png@01D0FF6D.BB1ECB20"><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060">So with these visuals handy, let’s summarize the figures in front of us:</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoListParagraph" style="text-indent:-.25in"><span style="color:#002060">1.</span><span style="font-size:7.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:#002060">
</span><span style="color:#002060">Rainbow reports: maximum demand value for ‘space cooling’ =
<b><u>472.167 kW, occurring in the month of August</u></b>. </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoListParagraph" style="text-indent:-.25in"><span style="color:#002060">2.</span><span style="font-size:7.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:#002060">
</span><span style="color:#002060">PS-E report: annual “MAX KW” is <b><u>474.025 kW, in June</u></b></span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoListParagraph" style="text-indent:-.25in"><span style="color:#002060">3.</span><span style="font-size:7.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:#002060">
</span><span style="color:#002060">PS-E report: annual “PEAK ENDUSE” = <b><u>460.149 kW, in June</u></b>.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoListParagraph" style="text-indent:-.25in"><span style="color:#002060">4.</span><span style="font-size:7.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:#002060">
</span><span style="color:#002060">PS-F for EM1: annual “MAX KW” = <b><u>474.025 kW, in June.</u></b></span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoListParagraph" style="text-indent:-.25in"><span style="color:#002060">5.</span><span style="font-size:7.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:#002060">
</span><span style="color:#002060">PS-F for EM1: annual “PEAK ENDUSE” = <b><u>471.084 kW, in June</u></b>.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoListParagraph" style="text-indent:-.25in"><span style="color:#002060">6.</span><span style="font-size:7.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:#002060">
</span><span style="color:#002060">LEED CSV output: <b><u>471.084 kW, (unspecified time)</u></b>.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060">CLEARLY… the water is muddy so far. For those keeping score, I have
<b><u>4</u></b> different values to differentiate here. </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060">In order of largest to smallest:</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoListParagraph" style="text-indent:-.25in"><span style="font-family:Wingdings;color:#002060">§</span><span style="font-size:7.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:#002060">
</span><b><u><span style="color:#002060">474.025 kW:</span></u></b><span style="color:#002060"> PS-E and PS-F (for EM1) agree on this “MAX KW” value for space cooling. This is the highest draw for ‘space cooling,’ independent of meters & coincident peak draw
hours for the entire year: “Non-coincident enduse peak.”</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoListParagraph" style="text-indent:-.25in"><span style="font-family:Wingdings;color:#002060">§</span><span style="font-size:7.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:#002060">
</span><b><u><span style="color:#002060">472.167 kW:</span></u></b><span style="color:#002060"> This maximum peak demand from the ‘rainbow report’ is the contribution of ‘space cooling’ at the hour of highest electrical draw in the month of August,
<u>for all electric meters</u>. This is the demand at the “coincident peak” for the year.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoListParagraph" style="text-indent:-.25in"><span style="font-family:Wingdings;color:#002060">§</span><span style="font-size:7.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:#002060">
</span><b><u><span style="color:#002060">471.084 kW:</span></u></b><span style="color:#002060"> As confirmed with the developers (thanks!), the LEED CSV output feature by design sums the annual “PEAK ENDUSE” (read “annual coincident-peak”) outputs for all
PS-F reports to come up with “Baseline/Proposed Design Demand” outputs. These sum results can in turn come from a variety of different peak hours during the simulation (those for each meter), and therefore do not cleanly fit the definitions of “MAX KW” or
“PEAK ENDUSE.” In this case, we are seeing the contributions of space cooling during the annual peak coincident hour
<u>as seen by meter EM1 in isolation</u>. That this value differs from the ‘rainbow report’ maximum value is because the loads on non-EM1 meters are shifting the coincident peak hour for the whole building away from what the loads under EM1 alone would suggest<i>.
(An aside: I <u>promise</u>, I’ve proofed this passage a few times and am struggling to convey this more clearly!)</i>
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<p class="MsoListParagraph" style="text-indent:-.25in"><span style="font-family:Wingdings;color:#002060">§</span><span style="font-size:7.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:#002060">
</span><b><u><span style="color:#002060">460.149 kW:</span></u></b><span style="color:#002060"> This is what ‘space cooling’ contributes to the coincident-peak consumption for the year,
<u>for all electric meters</u>. This is distinct from and lower than the maximum rainbow report value, because the annual building peak occurs in the month of June instead of August.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060">Suggested “Best Practices” for LEED documentation (TLDR!):</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoListParagraph" style="text-indent:-.25in"><span style="font-family:Symbol;color:#002060">·</span><span style="font-size:7.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:#002060">
</span><u><span style="color:#002060">When you have only the default utility meters EM1 and FM1</span></u><span style="color:#002060">: The annual “MAX KW” / “MAX MBTU/HR” values found at the bottom of the PS-E reports are the most representative/intuitive
quantities in consideration of how they are leveraged in LEED model reviews for “equivalent full load hours.” They represent the maximum “non-coincident peak” for each enduse, for the whole project. For preliminary submission, use those for reporting simulation
enduse demand, and include at least the PS-E reports in the collection of SIM reports you elect to upload for supporting documentation. BE AWARE these values do not match the “coincident peaks” visualized with the rainbow reports.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoListParagraph" style="text-indent:-.25in"><span style="font-family:Symbol;color:#002060">·</span><span style="font-size:7.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:#002060">
</span><u><span style="color:#002060">When you have more than one of any type of meter (commonly to distinguish and separately document loads that would otherwise fall under the same enduse category):</span></u><span style="color:#002060"> Refer instead the
“MAX KW” / “MAX MBTU/HR” annual values found at the bottom of the PS-F reports for each meter, and include all PS-F reports in your supporting documentation. Recognize the peak non-coincident enduses for the master meters (EM1/FM1) may require some addition/subtraction
of the other meters’ peaks if you elected to define the additional meters on a different level (i.e. submeters instead of utility).</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoListParagraph" style="text-indent:-.25in"><span style="font-family:Symbol;color:#002060">·</span><span style="font-size:7.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:#002060">
</span><span style="color:#002060">If you elect to include any of the “rainbow reports” in supporting LEED documentation, be mindful these are all built upon “coincident peaks” of one form or another, and do NOT represent “non-coincident” or “independent” maximum
draws for each enduse. I for one have gravitated <u>away</u> from providing any of these graphical reports, as they seem to be a common source for misunderstanding/confusion when a reviewer is looking for documentation issues. If I have to explain
<i>one more time</i> why there isn’t any exterior lighting demand during the monthly coincident peak hours…. =)
</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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</span><span style="color:#002060">DO recognize this sort of “full load equivalent hours” check/approximation is very easy to perform and can save you time in review/QC of simulated models, directly from the eQUEST user interface.
</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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</span><span style="color:#002060">Also recognize NONE of these peak/demand outputs can be counted on as equivalent to “installed capacity,” which is what a GBCI reviewer is generally looking for to approximate “full load equivalent hours.”
</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:1.0in"><span style="font-family:"Courier New";color:#002060">o</span><span style="font-size:7.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:#002060">
</span><span style="color:#002060">Some common causes for this divergence include:</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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</span><span style="color:#002060">Any fractional schedules for loads which do not hit 100% (including every ASHRAE-recommended fractional schedule for every occupancy type, excepting parking garages),
</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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</span><span style="color:#002060">All oversizing factors for system heating/cooling capacities (i.e. every correctly autosized 90.1 baseline system, ever),
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</span><span style="color:#002060">and the variety of operational inputs concerning systems’ behavior will cause enduse demand figures of all stripes to diverge from “installed capacity.”</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:1.0in"><span style="font-family:"Courier New";color:#002060">o</span><span style="font-size:7.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:#002060">
</span><span style="color:#002060">Reviewers and diligent modelers interesting in QC’ing their efforts alike are encouraged to “dive deeper” and seek more case-specific inputs/outputs to ensure operating hours are within reason, when such an approximation causes
raised eyebrows.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060">Wishing everyone the best,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060">~Nick</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060">* An interesting footnote: As it stands uncorrected, I believe “_EG_MoEU_ED.csv” stands for “<u>E</u>very
<u>G</u>ood <u>Mo</u>deler <u>E</u>ducates the <u>U</u>niformed <u>E</u>ach <u>D</u>ay,” as proposed by Mr. Bill Bishop earlier this year over these mailing lists.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060">** In hindsight, there are a few other possible pitfalls in demand reporting I didn’t hit with this example, which would fall under the category of “best practices for metering structure…” (a writeup for another
day!) For now I’ll just say to be extra mindful with your meters when you are simulating any on-site power generation, cogeneration, tri-generation, and specific cases for district heating/cooling networks.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="color:windowtext">From:</span></b><span style="color:windowtext"> Equest-users [<a href="mailto:equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org">mailto:equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Eric Fischel J.<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, October 02, 2015 3:43 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Brian Fountain; <a href="mailto:equest-users@lists.onebuilding.org">equest-users@lists.onebuilding.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Equest-users] Demand Direct Process Load</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Hello Brian, that right there is a shift in the moment of the peak demand.
</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Does anyone know how to resolve this in the model or in any case how to deal with it in the LEED submittal for the reviewrs no to coment on it?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">I have done lots o models and never came acorss with this issiue previsuly.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Best regards.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height:150%"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;line-height:150%;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"> Ing. Eric Fischel J.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="color:windowtext">From:</span></b><span style="color:windowtext"> Brian Fountain [<a href="mailto:bfountain@greensim.com">mailto:bfountain@greensim.com</a>]
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<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, October 01, 2015 1:43 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:equest-users@lists.onebuilding.org">equest-users@lists.onebuilding.org</a>; Eric Fischel J. <<a href="mailto:eric.fischel@cts-cr.com">eric.fischel@cts-cr.com</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Equest-users] Demand Direct Process Load</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">I would look at your PS-E report to see when the peak loads are occurring in your proposed and baseline models. I suspect that the slight shift in when the peak demand is being set changes the breakdown of
that peak demand.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On 01/10/2015 2:18 PM, Eric Fischel J. wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Hello David, thanks for the tip on the process loads.
</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">In the following table the results show that the KWh for the receptacle equipment is the same but we get -15.4029 in demand saving. (We triple check schedules and w/sf they are exactly the same)</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Additionally we use the “Exterior Usage” and “Task Lighting” categories in the Electric Meter Direct loads ( for water pump, elevator, exterior lighting), using the same Schedule and Load (KW). As you can see
the show saving in Demand.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">What would we change In the *.SIM file to get the same results in the process load?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Thanks again for your help!</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height:150%"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;line-height:150%;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"> Ing. Eric Fischel J.
</span></b><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"> </span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Tel.: (506) 2222-7529</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ES-CR" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"> From USA: 1-305-433-3668</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ES-CR" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">
</span><span lang="ES" style="font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Calle 30, Avenida 0 y 2. San José, Costa Rica</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height:150%"><span style="color:#1F497D"><img border="0" width="144" height="131" id="_x0000_i1035" src="cid:image026.jpg@01D10595.2AB36180" alt="Logo
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Los comentarios plasmados en este correo son del remitente solamente y no reflejan necesariamente la posición de CTS S.A.</span></i><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> David Eldridge [<a href="mailto:DEldridge@grummanbutkus.com">mailto:DEldridge@grummanbutkus.com</a>]
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<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, September 22, 2015 8:51 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Juan Carlos Sanabria F. <a href="mailto:juan.sanabria@cts-cr.com"><juan.sanabria@cts-cr.com></a>;
<a href="mailto:equest-users@lists.onebuilding.org">equest-users@lists.onebuilding.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Equest-users] Demand Direct Process Load<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Double check the timing of the peaks – the graphical presentation in eQUEST is the coincident peak – the contribution of each component at the time that the building hits its total highest demand.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">It’s likely that the proposed building has a peak later in the day due to one or more efficiency measures that are included. If the process loads are lower at this time, the graphical presentation will show that
the peak component is less than the baseline case. (Or if the process ramps up later in the day, it could be more?)</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">You’ll need to go into the *.SIM file to get the reported peaks for the process loads (and show the annual totals to also be the same) to demonstrate that the schedules are consistent, or otherwise explain to
the reviewer what is happening.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">David</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><u>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:8.0pt"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">David S. Eldridge, Jr., P.E., LEED AP BD+C, BEMP, BEAP, HBDP</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="color:#244061">Grumman/Butkus Associates</span></b><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> Equest-users [<a href="mailto:equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org">mailto:equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Juan Carlos Sanabria F.<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, September 21, 2015 6:10 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:equest-users@lists.onebuilding.org">equest-users@lists.onebuilding.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Equest-users] Demand Direct Process Load<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Hi,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">I’m modeling a building for LEED, but when I go to equest LEED report I notice that my direct process load for demand is not equal, anyone know why this happen?<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">I review the rate and the schedules and are the same also the energy load is the same for the proposed and the baseline.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Thanks,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height:150%"><b><span lang="ES-CR" style="font-size:10.0pt;line-height:150%;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif""> Ing. Juan Carlos Sanabria F.
</span></b><o:p></o:p></p>
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