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--></style></head><body bgcolor="white" lang="EN-US" link="blue" vlink="purple"><div class="WordSection1"><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#002060">The hydronic inputs component tree has multiple such “gotchas,” but as a general rule within the eQUEST interface you will be fine so long as you delete things “from the bottom up.” That is, before deleting a space, delete the child components starting with the grandkids (i.e. windows/doors, then surfaces, then the space). This avoids “orphan” related issues that will sometimes throw an obvious error and other times will only rise up to bite you later!</span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#002060"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#002060">With respect to chiller quantities, pay mind to the inputs highlighted in the following screen – if you mean to define one of each chiller type, those should read “1”:</span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><img width="738" height="533" id="Picture_x0020_2" src="cid:image003.png@01D0D516.D7C8C400"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#002060"></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#002060"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#002060">I might also add on first glance you may want, before diving far into detailed edits, to also revisit your wizard-level zone mapping for the shell “Telford 1st Floor lobby 2 & Dayc” as it appears the automated perimeter/core zoning may be having troubles with the shell’s footprint outline (note the overlapping perimeter/core spaces). Even if you don’t mean to get more detailed, a few manual edits to the automated zoning effort can clear this matter up by adding/deleting a couple vertices:</span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><img width="360" height="370" id="Picture_x0020_1" src="cid:image002.png@01D0D516.28850F30"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#002060"></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#002060"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#002060">I hope this helps! As you’ve likely picked up (but I will reiterate) this is a relative doozy for a first simulation project. 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Saving then reloading the file often helps in finding such issues.</span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"> </span></p></div><table class="MsoNormalTable" border="0" cellpadding="0" width="100%" style="width:100.0%;background:white;border-spacing:0px"><tr><td style="padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt;font-size:initial;text-align:initial"><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #b5c4df 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in"><div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif">From: </span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif">Jill Moreland</span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif">Sent: </span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif">Wednesday, August 12, 2015 4:17 PM</span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif">To: </span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif">Daric Adair</span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif">Cc: </span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif">Equest Users Mailing List</span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif">Subject: </span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif">Re: [Equest-users] Deleting a Chiller From a Chilled Water Loop</span></p></div></div></td></tr></table><p class="MsoNormal"> </p><div id="_originalContent"><div><div><p class="MsoNormal">Thanks Daric,</p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"> </p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">I closed the file and reopened and saw the 99 space errors you mentioned. Interesting thing is I was able to run a report with these errors prior to deleting the chillers. Go figure. Anyways, I will fix the names and see if that helps. Yup, big file/project and it's my first time using eQuest. Fun times.</p></div></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><br clear="all"></p><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"> </p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">Jill Moreland</p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">Connect Program Manager</p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">Plug Smart</p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><a href="mailto:Jill.Moreland@PlugSmart.com" target="_blank">Jill.Moreland@PlugSmart.com</a></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">Cell: 239-233-0993</p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">Fax: 800-518-5576</p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"> </p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><img border="0" id="_x0000_i1025" src="http://gtest.plugsmart.net/LogoSprawl.PNG"></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"> </p></div><div><p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">Plug Smart is accepting new clients, the best praise you could give us a recommendation to a potential new client. Everyone needs to save money, Plug Smart can make it happen. </span></p><p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">Confidential:</span></p><p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are the property of Juice Technologies, LLC. and/or its affiliates, are confidential, and are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom this e-mail is addressed. If you are not one of the named recipients or otherwise have reason to believe that you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender and delete this message immediately from your computer. Any other use, retention, dissemination, forwarding, printing or copying of this e-mail is strictly prohibited.</span></p></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><p class="MsoNormal"> </p><div><p class="MsoNormal">On Wed, Aug 12, 2015 at 4:09 PM, Daric Adair <<a href="mailto:Daric.Adair@hei-eng.com" target="_blank">Daric.Adair@hei-eng.com</a>> wrote:</p><blockquote style="border:none;border-left:solid #cccccc 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in"><div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">Jill;</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">This is a BIG model – dang.</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">I was able to download and open the model – but I had numerous errors due to Spaces having the same name [re: 10+ ‘STAIRWAY’ and ‘MECHANICAL ROOM’]. These spaces should be renamed, even its to add a direction [N/S/E/W] or a number to the end to differentiate them. This has caused me issues in the past when I get two Spaces with the same name. This also cascades into issues with the assigned Thermal Zone since it has no way differentiate between this ‘Stairway’ or that ‘Stairway’. </span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">I’d say step 1 is to correct the above, and then reload the model. This could be the issue.</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">An additional area to look at is the ‘Read.log’ file. This file is created when the model is loaded, and by searching for ‘Error’ in this text file, you can quickly skip to the issues in the .inp file. I’ve found it more useful at times than the ‘BDL Error Manager’ interface with eQuest.</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">On the Chiller issue, my read.log file didn’t show these at all. But it could have been ‘choked off’ but the errors above. </span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">Let us know what you find.</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">Thanks,</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial Black",sans-serif;color:black;text-transform:uppercase">DARIC R. 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I am out of the wizard and in detail mode and noticed that four chillers (1a, 1b, 2a, 2b) were showing up in the component tree instead of just the actual two. I had no errors in my file and right clicked on chiller 1b & 2b and hit delete. The warning did say there was a child component but I believe that was the pump associated with it and hit delete. </p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"> </p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Now when I try to run simulation I get "1 Run(s) Terminated Due to Errors" and can not view the summary report. When I left click the "Check Building Description" box it says there are no BDL errors. Not sure how to resolve. I have a saved file with the chillers before they were deleted but have attached the file with 1b and 2b deleted that I am having problems with and would greatly appreciate any help. 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