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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">I agree that it is explicit on what
      version 90.1-2001 to use and what addendum. But there is no such
      clarification on the version of Appendix G. <br>
      <br>
      - Steve<br>
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      On 4/25/2014 8:51 AM, Paul Riemer wrote:<br>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">The
            legislation clearly states ASHRAE 90.1-2001 as in effect on
            April 2, 2003 and lists which addenda that includes.  The
            NREL published ‘Guidelines’ document says the same thing.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">It
            combines tax law, accounting, building design, and energy
            modeling  so yes  there are lots of ‘hiccups’ out there.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace:none"><b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#5F574F">Paul
                Riemer, PE, LEED AP BD+C</span></b><span
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              <o:p></o:p></span></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#C4262E">DUNHAM</span></b><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext">From:</span></b><span
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                <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org">equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org</a>
                [<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org">mailto:equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org</a>] <b>On
                  Behalf Of </b>Steve Jacobs<br>
                <b>Sent:</b> Friday, April 25, 2014 9:32 AM<br>
                <b>To:</b> Busby, Aaron; Tom Mickley;
                <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:equest-users@lists.onebuilding.org">equest-users@lists.onebuilding.org</a><br>
                <b>Subject:</b> Re: [Equest-users] Section 179D Question<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal">I'm not aware of anything says we can or
            can't use addendum to Appendix G. It is certainly
            frustrating not having anywhere to take questions. The
            inability for modelers to seek clarifications means that the
            community is probably taking a lot of different approaches
            to the incentive. <br>
            <br>
            <br>
            <br>
            On 4/25/2014 6:56 AM, Busby, Aaron wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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              90.1 has several addendums now that have added system
              types, just for warehouse type spaces where they are
              heated only.  Look for Addenda DN, system types 10 and 11.<o:p></o:p></p>
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                              Busby, PE,  LEED AP</i></b><o:p></o:p></p>
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                          770.563.1522<br>
                          Cell: 678.642.7549<o:p></o:p></p>
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                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><b>From:</b>
                  <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                    href="mailto:equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org">equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org</a>
                  [<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                    href="mailto:equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org">mailto:equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org</a>]
                  <b>On Behalf Of </b>Tom Mickley<br>
                  <b>Sent:</b> Friday, April 25, 2014 8:38 AM<br>
                  <b>To:</b> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                    href="mailto:equest-users@lists.onebuilding.org">equest-users@lists.onebuilding.org</a><br>
                  <b>Subject:</b> [Equest-users] Section 179D Question<o:p></o:p></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal"
              style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Has
              anyone run a baseline building for a retrofit building to
              qualify a business owner for the Section 179D tax
              deduction?  It seems simple enough to model the existing
              building based on ASHRAE 90.1 standards.  Has anyone found
              any potential “hiccups” along the way that has prevented
              the up to $1.80/sq tax deduction aside from the obvious of
              not meeting the energy upgrade percentage? <o:p></o:p></p>
            <p class="MsoNormal"
              style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"> <o:p></o:p></p>
            <p class="MsoNormal"
              style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Here’s
              my main concern.  I have a cabinet manufacturer customer
              who has a 100,000sf metal building that is roughly 30%
              wood working or manufacturing, 65% warehouse storage and
              5% office space.  95% of this facility is heated only.  Do
              I have to include cooling in the baseline from ASHRAE 90.1
              system 5 on appendix G, table G3.1.1.A?  The only upgrades
              we are proposing are to take out the air rotation unit and
              radiant tube vacuum systems and a few other minor items. 
              <o:p></o:p></p>
            <p class="MsoNormal"
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            <p class="MsoNormal"
              style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Any
              advice would help.  Thanks in advance. <o:p></o:p></p>
            <p class="MsoNormal"
              style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"> <o:p></o:p></p>
            <p class="MsoNormal"
              style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Thanks,<o:p></o:p></p>
            <p class="MsoNormal"
              style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"> <o:p></o:p></p>
            <p class="MsoNormal"
              style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Tom
              Mickley<o:p></o:p></p>
            <p class="MsoNormal"
              style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Mechanical
              Engineer CEM<o:p></o:p></p>
            <p class="MsoNormal"
              style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">The
              K Company<o:p></o:p></p>
            <p class="MsoNormal"
              style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Cell
              330-760-3994<o:p></o:p></p>
            <p class="MsoNormal"
              style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Office
              330-773-5125<o:p></o:p></p>
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