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<div>Tom the original poster:</div>
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<div>When you say "proposing" do you mean the project wasn't completed some time between 2005 and 2013?</div>
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<div>I see a bigger hiccup relating to the legislation not being currently extended into 2014, unless this happened recently.</div>
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<div>Other major hiccups:</div>
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<div>1) $1.80 deduction is only if all three paths are pursued - envelope, HVAC, and electrical. What you described here was only HVAC measures.</div>
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<div>2) it's a deduction and not a credit...so your client with 100,000 sf is looking at $60,000 deduction, for which their net value may be ~$20,000 or less depending on many other factors outside of the efficiency work itself.</div>
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On Apr 25, 2014, at 9:39 AM, "Steve Jacobs" <<a href="mailto:sjacobseng@gmail.com">sjacobseng@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">I'm not aware of anything says we can or can't use addendum to Appendix G. It is certainly frustrating not having anywhere to take questions. The inability for modelers to seek clarifications means that the community is probably
taking a lot of different approaches to the incentive. <br>
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On 4/25/2014 6:56 AM, Busby, Aaron wrote:<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">ASHRAE 90.1 has several addendums now that have added system types, just for warehouse type spaces where they are heated only. Look for Addenda DN, system types 10 and 11.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org">
equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org</a> [<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org">mailto:equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Tom Mickley<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, April 25, 2014 8:38 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:equest-users@lists.onebuilding.org">
equest-users@lists.onebuilding.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Equest-users] Section 179D Question<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Has anyone run a baseline building for a retrofit building to qualify a business owner for the Section 179D tax deduction? It seems simple enough to model the existing building based on ASHRAE 90.1 standards. Has anyone found any potential
“hiccups” along the way that has prevented the up to $1.80/sq tax deduction aside from the obvious of not meeting the energy upgrade percentage?
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<p class="MsoNormal">Here’s my main concern. I have a cabinet manufacturer customer who has a 100,000sf metal building that is roughly 30% wood working or manufacturing, 65% warehouse storage and 5% office space. 95% of this facility is heated only. Do I
have to include cooling in the baseline from ASHRAE 90.1 system 5 on appendix G, table G3.1.1.A? The only upgrades we are proposing are to take out the air rotation unit and radiant tube vacuum systems and a few other minor items.
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<p class="MsoNormal">Any advice would help. Thanks in advance. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Thanks,<o:p></o:p></p>
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