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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">I've used this approach in the past.
Appendix G requires the schedules to be the same, and where no
cooling systems exist you need to model it the same as the
proposed. The NREL guidelines say you can use the " [schedule of
the] taxpayer’s building if they are known (see Section 3.6)." If
a building has no cooling setpoint it is not unreasonable to
interpret a no cooling setpoint as a high cooling setpoint. A
large heated warehouse will have most its energy use in fans,
lighting, and heat (depending on the heating setpoint). I don't
think you would be gaming the system at all to have your model be
consistent with the actual energy profile of the building. <br>
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- Steve<br>
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On 4/25/2014 8:45 AM, Daniel Knapp wrote:<br>
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<div>This requirement of adding cooling where it is not designed
is an odd one to be sure. A possible workaround is to recognize
that the proposed building will have a cooling "setpoint" that
is higher than usual and to model the proposed and baseline
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On Apr 25, 2014, at 10:32 AM, Steve Jacobs <<a
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">I'm not aware of anything says we
can or can't use addendum to Appendix G. It is certainly
frustrating not having anywhere to take questions. The
inability for modelers to seek clarifications means that the
community is probably taking a lot of different approaches
to the incentive. <br>
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On 4/25/2014 6:56 AM, Busby, Aaron wrote:<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Has anyone run a baseline building
for a retrofit building to qualify a business owner for
the Section 179D tax deduction? It seems simple enough
to model the existing building based on ASHRAE 90.1
standards. Has anyone found any potential “hiccups”
along the way that has prevented the up to $1.80/sq tax
deduction aside from the obvious of not meeting the
energy upgrade percentage? <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Here’s my main concern. I have a
cabinet manufacturer customer who has a 100,000sf metal
building that is roughly 30% wood working or
manufacturing, 65% warehouse storage and 5% office
space. 95% of this facility is heated only. Do I have
to include cooling in the baseline from ASHRAE 90.1
system 5 on appendix G, table G3.1.1.A? The only
upgrades we are proposing are to take out the air
rotation unit and radiant tube vacuum systems and a few
other minor items. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Any advice would help. Thanks in
advance. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Thanks,<o:p></o:p></p>
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