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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">If this is actual equipment, not a
      theoretical study, it would be nice if the equipment manufacturers
      had some advice on modeling.  I know that Climate Master tried to
      do this for a while on their Ground Source Heat Pumps.  All gone
      now I think.<br>
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      But if it's real equipment, calling the manufacturer and saying
      "I'm trying to model your equipment in EQuest" might at least give
      them the vague hint that EQuest exists and is used for things that
      might make their equipment more easily specified.<br>
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      I mean, everybody gives AutoDesk details now, right?<br>
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      OK, I'm dreaming, I know...<br>
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      <pre class="moz-signature" cols="72">Robert Wichert P.Eng. LEED AP BD&C
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      On 3/27/2014 9:21 AM, Matt Hein wrote:<br>
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      <div dir="ltr">In the grand scheme of things it's all the same
        (air movement, heat source, heat rejection, pumping, and
        controls). The devil is in the (eQuest configuration) details.
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        <div>I think I would use a packaged single-zone with reheat
          (SZRH) and adjust the curves and other performance parameters
          to try and match the actual FCU. Coil placement and other
          attributes are different but your best efforts (and good
          documentation) are all you can give. </div>
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        <div>Anyone else have suggestions?</div>
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          <div>- Matt Hein<br>
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          <div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Mar 27, 2014 at 10:35 AM,
            Nick Patsos <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
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              <div dir="ltr">Hi Matt,
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                <div>thanks for your answer. I have set an exhaust fan
                  at zone level but the problem is that still the
                  Outdoor air heat recovery is not enabled under the FCU
                  system parameters.</div>
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                <div>Any further thoughts ?</div>
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                  <div>Best regards</div>
                  <div>Nick Patsos</div>
                  <div>Mechanical Engineer</div>
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                      <div class="gmail_quote">On 27 March 2014 15:50,
                        Matt Hein <span dir="ltr"><<a
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                          <div dir="ltr">Nick,
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                            <div>eQuest limits the HVAC systems for a
                              thermal zone to (1) air-side system that
                              may have reheat and/or supplemental heat,
                              (1) baseboard heat source, (1) exhaust
                              system. To model the VAM system you need
                              to create an equivalent system to the
                              overall systems operating in the thermal
                              zone.</div>
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                            <div>I think you can model your system by
                              creating an exhaust fan (and schedule) for
                              the zone and incorporating the HEX into
                              the FCU using Outdoor Air Heat Recovery.
                              You will need to make some adjustments to
                              system performance (e.g. kW/cfm) to make
                              sure overall performance of the simulated
                              system and actual system align.</div>
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                            <div>- Matt Hein<br>
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                                <div>On Wed, Mar 26, 2014 at 10:29 AM,
                                  Nick Patsos <span dir="ltr"><<a
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                                    <div dir="ltr">Hello everyone,
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                                      <div>I'm trying to model in eQuest
                                        a ventilation air machine (VAM),
                                        which is a simple plate heat
                                        exchanger with an OA fan and an
                                        exhaust fan.</div>
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                                      <div>How can it be modelled to
                                        operate with an FCU type of
                                        system? (VAM for fresh air heat
                                        recovery and FCU for
                                        cooling/heating).</div>
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                                      <div>Best regards</div>
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                                          <div>Nick Patsos</div>
                                          <div>Mechanical Engineer
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