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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Nobody is gaming the system Tim. I'm working on a couple LEED v4 pilot projects, and the spreadsheet for the Minimum Energy Performance credits still lists 22 W / gpm for both systems (and it is a REVISED spreadsheet in a totally different format, not something that was copy/pasted from the v3 spreadsheet).<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I can send it to you offline if you don't have access to the new templates.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>For reference, my last primary / secondary chilled water job had a condenser water pump needing 50 feet of head, a primary chilled water pump needing 58 feet of head, and a secondary chilled water pump needing 65 feet of head. This would fall exactly in line with the 19 W / gpm allowance for condenser water, and 22 W / gpm for each of the chilled water pumps. Perhaps GBCI had an internal ruling based on the hundreds of chilled water plant projects they see each year??<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#4D4F53'>GHT Limited<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#0C3844'>James Hansen, PE, LEED AP, BEMP<o:p></o:p></span></b></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#0C3844'>Senior Associate<o:p></o:p></span></b></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#0C3844'>1110 N. Glebe Road, Suite 300<o:p></o:p></span></b></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#0C3844'>Arlington, VA 22201<o:p></o:p></span></b></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#0C3844'>703.243.1200 (main)<o:p></o:p></span></b></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#0C3844'>703.338.5754 (direct/cell)<o:p></o:p></span></b></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><a href="http://www.ghtltd.com"><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:#C4BA00;text-decoration:none'>www.ghtltd.com</span></b></a></span><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#C4BA00'><o:p></o:p></span></b></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Howe, Timothy [mailto:Timothy.Howe@stantec.com] <br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, November 27, 2013 12:56 PM<br><b>To:</b> James Hansen; Nick Caton; Christian Kaltreider; Bishop, Bill; Joe Fleming; equest-users@lists.onebuilding.org<br><b>Subject:</b> RE: [Equest-users] App G Baseline CHW Pump Power<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Century Gothic","sans-serif";color:blue'>James,</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Century Gothic","sans-serif";color:blue'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Century Gothic","sans-serif";color:blue'>The ASHRAE interpretation came around or after the latest Table 1.4 template was released, both in December 2012. I think that it is fair to assume that the USGBC just missed the point on this one and despite that any good reviewer should push back on using 22 w/gpm on both pumps. The template supplied by the USGBC is a tool to document the model inputs and not what is used to stipulate how to model and follow the PRM. </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Century Gothic","sans-serif";color:blue'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Century Gothic","sans-serif";color:blue'>The PRM is the only set of rules to which EAp2/EAc1 performance is developed with the only official deviation from what is contained within it is the DES guidance produced by the USGBC. </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Century Gothic","sans-serif";color:blue'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Century Gothic","sans-serif";color:blue'>Gaming the performance of a model because of this misinterpretation by the USGBC is bad for the modeling community and should be avoided. </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Century Gothic","sans-serif";color:blue'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Century Gothic","sans-serif";color:blue'>Tim.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Century Gothic","sans-serif";color:blue'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Century Gothic","sans-serif";color:#FF9B26'>Timothy Howe, MS, BEMP, LEED® AP</span></b><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Century Gothic","sans-serif";color:#8B8376'>Mechanical Designer<br><br>Stantec<br>61 Commercial Street, Suite 100 Rochester NY 14614-1009<br><br>Phone: (585) 413-5347<br>Cell: (585) 281-3223<br>Fax: (585) 272-1814<br><br><a href="mailto:timothy.howe@stantec.com"><span style='color:#8B8376;text-decoration:none'>timothy.howe@stantec.com</span></a></span><o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:blue'><img border=0 width=125 height=33 id="_x0000_i1025" src="cid:image001.gif@01CEEB71.5F31E3E0" alt=Stantec></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:blue'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Century Gothic","sans-serif";color:#8B8376'>Design with community in mind</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:blue'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Century Gothic","sans-serif";color:#FF9B26'><a href="http://www.stantec.com"><span style='color:#FF9B26'>stantec.com</span></a></span><o:p></o:p></p></div><table class=MsoNormalTable border=0 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0><tr><td style='padding:1.5pt 1.5pt 1.5pt 1.5pt'><p class=MsoNormal><a href="https://www.facebook.com/StantecInc?v=wall&ref=sgm"><span style='text-decoration:none'><img border=0 width=16 height=16 id="_x0000_i1026" src="cid:image002.gif@01CEEB71.5F31E3E0" alt=facebook></span></a><o:p></o:p></p></td><td style='padding:1.5pt 1.5pt 1.5pt 1.5pt'><p class=MsoNormal><a href="https://twitter.com/stantec"><span style='text-decoration:none'><img border=0 width=16 height=16 id="_x0000_i1027" src="cid:image003.gif@01CEEB71.5F31E3E0" alt=twitter></span></a><o:p></o:p></p></td><td style='padding:1.5pt 1.5pt 1.5pt 1.5pt'><p class=MsoNormal><a href="http://www.stantecinc.blogspot.ca/"><span style='text-decoration:none'><img border=0 width=16 height=16 id="_x0000_i1028" src="cid:image004.gif@01CEEB71.5F31E3E0" alt=blog></span></a><o:p></o:p></p></td><td style='padding:1.5pt 1.5pt 1.5pt 1.5pt'><p class=MsoNormal><a href="https://plus.google.com/112504287730358583553/posts"><span style='text-decoration:none'><img border=0 width=16 height=16 id="_x0000_i1029" src="cid:image005.gif@01CEEB71.5F31E3E0" alt="goggle+"></span></a><o:p></o:p></p></td><td style='padding:1.5pt 1.5pt 1.5pt 1.5pt'><p class=MsoNormal><a href="http://www.linkedin.com/company/stantec"><span style='text-decoration:none'><img border=0 width=16 height=16 id="_x0000_i1030" src="cid:image006.gif@01CEEB71.5F31E3E0" alt=linkedin></span></a><o:p></o:p></p></td><td style='padding:1.5pt 1.5pt 1.5pt 1.5pt'><p class=MsoNormal><a href="http://www.youtube.com/user/StantecInc"><span style='text-decoration:none'><img border=0 width=16 height=16 id="_x0000_i1031" src="cid:image007.gif@01CEEB71.5F31E3E0" alt=youtube></span></a><o:p></o:p></p></td></tr></table><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:blue'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Century Gothic","sans-serif";color:#8B8376'>The content of this email is the confidential property of Stantec and should not be copied, modified, retransmitted, or used for any purpose except with Stantec's written authorization. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete all copies and notify us immediately.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:blue'><br></span><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:Webdings;color:#008040'>ü</span><span style='color:blue'> </span><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Century Gothic","sans-serif";color:#008040'>Please consider the environment before printing this email.</span><o:p></o:p></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> <a href="mailto:equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org">equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org</a> [<a href="mailto:equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org">mailto:equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>James Hansen<br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, November 27, 2013 12:41 PM<br><b>To:</b> Nick Caton; Christian Kaltreider; Bishop, Bill; Joe Fleming; <a href="mailto:equest-users@lists.onebuilding.org">equest-users@lists.onebuilding.org</a><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Equest-users] App G Baseline CHW Pump Power</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>For what it's worth, I've used 22 W / gpm for each system (primary and secondary) for the past few LEED projects, and have not had any comments, given that the LEED "Revised Section 1 4 Table" from Dec 2012 specifically lists that the primary and secondary pumping system should be at 22 W / gpm. By the way, if you're not using the Table 1.4 excel spreadsheet to document EAp2/EAc1, you should, because it makes it way easier for GBCI to review your model, and it minimizes the chance and/or severity of comments. </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><table class=MsoNormalTable border=0 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0 width=903 style='width:677.0pt;margin-left:-.65pt;border-collapse:collapse'><tr style='height:12.75pt'><td width=172 style='width:129.0pt;border:solid gray 1.0pt;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt;height:12.75pt'><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>CHW Loop Configuration</span><o:p></o:p></p></td><td width=291 valign=top style='width:218.0pt;border:solid gray 1.0pt;border-left:none;background:#D8D8D8;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt;height:12.75pt'><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#404040'>Primary/secondary per G3.1.3.10</span><o:p></o:p></p></td><td width=220 colspan=2 style='width:165.0pt;border-top:solid gray 1.0pt;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid gray 1.0pt;border-right:none;background:#D8D8D8;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt;height:12.75pt'><p class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#7F7F7F'>N/A</span><o:p></o:p></p></td><td width=220 colspan=2 style='width:165.0pt;border:solid gray 1.0pt;border-right:none;background:#D8D8D8;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt;height:12.75pt'><p class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#7F7F7F'>N/A</span><o:p></o:p></p></td></tr><tr style='height:25.5pt'><td width=172 style='width:129.0pt;border:solid gray 1.0pt;border-top:none;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt;height:25.5pt'><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Number of Primary CHW Pumps</span><o:p></o:p></p></td><td width=291 valign=top style='width:218.0pt;border-top:none;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid gray 1.0pt;border-right:solid gray 1.0pt;background:#D8D8D8;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt;height:25.5pt'><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#404040'>1 per chiller per G3.1.3.11</span><o:p></o:p></p></td><td width=172 style='width:129.0pt;border:none;border-bottom:solid gray 1.0pt;background:#D8D8D8;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt;height:25.5pt'><p class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#7F7F7F'>N/A</span><o:p></o:p></p></td><td width=48 style='width:.5in;border:solid gray 1.0pt;border-top:none;background:#D8D8D8;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt;height:25.5pt'><p class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#7F7F7F'>#</span><o:p></o:p></p></td><td width=172 style='width:129.0pt;border:none;border-bottom:solid gray 1.0pt;background:#D8D8D8;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt;height:25.5pt'><p class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#7F7F7F'>N/A</span><o:p></o:p></p></td><td width=48 style='width:.5in;border:solid gray 1.0pt;border-top:none;background:#D8D8D8;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt;height:25.5pt'><p class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#7F7F7F'>#</span><o:p></o:p></p></td></tr><tr style='height:12.75pt'><td width=172 style='width:129.0pt;border:solid gray 1.0pt;border-top:none;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt;height:12.75pt'><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Primary CHW Pump Power</span><o:p></o:p></p></td><td width=291 valign=top style='width:218.0pt;border-top:none;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid gray 1.0pt;border-right:solid gray 1.0pt;background:#D8D8D8;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt;height:12.75pt'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:red'>22 W/gpm per G3.1.3.10</span></b><o:p></o:p></p></td><td width=172 style='width:129.0pt;border:none;border-bottom:solid gray 1.0pt;background:#D8D8D8;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt;height:12.75pt'><p class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#7F7F7F'>N/A</span><o:p></o:p></p></td><td width=48 style='width:.5in;border:solid gray 1.0pt;border-top:none;background:#D8D8D8;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt;height:12.75pt'><p class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#7F7F7F'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></td><td width=172 style='width:129.0pt;border:none;border-bottom:solid gray 1.0pt;background:#D8D8D8;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt;height:12.75pt'><p class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#7F7F7F'>N/A</span><o:p></o:p></p></td><td width=48 style='width:.5in;border:solid gray 1.0pt;border-top:none;background:#D8D8D8;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt;height:12.75pt'><p class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#7F7F7F'>W/gpm</span><o:p></o:p></p></td></tr><tr style='height:22.5pt'><td width=172 style='width:129.0pt;border:solid gray 1.0pt;border-top:none;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt;height:22.5pt'><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Primary CHW Pump Flow</span><o:p></o:p></p></td><td width=291 valign=top style='width:218.0pt;border-top:none;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid gray 1.0pt;border-right:solid gray 1.0pt;background:#D8D8D8;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt;height:22.5pt'><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#404040'>Auto-sized with a capacity ratio of 1.0 based on CHW temperatures</span><o:p></o:p></p></td><td width=172 style='width:129.0pt;border:none;border-bottom:solid gray 1.0pt;background:#D8D8D8;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt;height:22.5pt'><p class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#7F7F7F'>N/A</span><o:p></o:p></p></td><td width=48 style='width:.5in;border:solid gray 1.0pt;border-top:none;background:#D8D8D8;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt;height:22.5pt'><p class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#7F7F7F'>gpm</span><o:p></o:p></p></td><td width=172 style='width:129.0pt;border:none;border-bottom:solid gray 1.0pt;background:#D8D8D8;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt;height:22.5pt'><p class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#7F7F7F'>N/A</span><o:p></o:p></p></td><td width=48 style='width:.5in;border:solid gray 1.0pt;border-top:none;background:#D8D8D8;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt;height:22.5pt'><p class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#7F7F7F'>gpm</span><o:p></o:p></p></td></tr><tr style='height:30.75pt'><td width=172 style='width:129.0pt;border:solid gray 1.0pt;border-top:none;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt;height:30.75pt'><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Primary CHW Pump Control</span><o:p></o:p></p></td><td width=291 valign=top style='width:218.0pt;border-top:none;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid gray 1.0pt;border-right:solid gray 1.0pt;background:#D8D8D8;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt;height:30.75pt'><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#404040'>Constant Flow - each primary pump interlocked to operate with associated chiller - G3.1.3.10, G3.1.3.11</span><o:p></o:p></p></td><td width=220 colspan=2 style='width:165.0pt;border:none;border-bottom:solid gray 1.0pt;background:#D8D8D8;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt;height:30.75pt'><p class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#7F7F7F'>N/A</span><o:p></o:p></p></td><td width=220 colspan=2 style='width:165.0pt;border-top:none;border-left:solid gray 1.0pt;border-bottom:solid gray 1.0pt;border-right:none;background:#D8D8D8;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt;height:30.75pt'><p class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#7F7F7F'>N/A</span><o:p></o:p></p></td></tr><tr style='height:50.25pt'><td width=172 style='width:129.0pt;border:solid gray 1.0pt;border-top:none;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt;height:50.25pt'><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Number of Secondary CHW Pumps</span><o:p></o:p></p></td><td width=291 valign=top style='width:218.0pt;border-top:none;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid gray 1.0pt;border-right:solid gray 1.0pt;background:#D8D8D8;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt;height:50.25pt'><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#404040'>1 per G3.1.3.10</span><o:p></o:p></p></td><td width=172 style='width:129.0pt;border:none;border-bottom:solid gray 1.0pt;background:#D8D8D8;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt;height:50.25pt'><p class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#7F7F7F'>N/A</span><o:p></o:p></p></td><td width=48 style='width:.5in;border:solid gray 1.0pt;border-top:none;background:#D8D8D8;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt;height:50.25pt'><p class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#7F7F7F'>#</span><o:p></o:p></p></td><td width=172 style='width:129.0pt;border:none;border-bottom:solid gray 1.0pt;background:#D8D8D8;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt;height:50.25pt'><p class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#7F7F7F'>N/A</span><o:p></o:p></p></td><td width=48 style='width:.5in;border:solid gray 1.0pt;border-top:none;background:#D8D8D8;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt;height:50.25pt'><p class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#7F7F7F'>#</span><o:p></o:p></p></td></tr><tr style='height:12.75pt'><td width=172 style='width:129.0pt;border:solid gray 1.0pt;border-top:none;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt;height:12.75pt'><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Secondary CHW Pump Power</span><o:p></o:p></p></td><td width=291 valign=top style='width:218.0pt;border-top:none;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid gray 1.0pt;border-right:solid gray 1.0pt;background:#D8D8D8;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt;height:12.75pt'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:red'>22 W/gpm per G3.1.3.10</span></b><o:p></o:p></p></td><td width=172 style='width:129.0pt;border:none;border-bottom:solid gray 1.0pt;background:#D8D8D8;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt;height:12.75pt'><p class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#7F7F7F'>N/A</span><o:p></o:p></p></td><td width=48 style='width:.5in;border:solid gray 1.0pt;border-top:none;background:#D8D8D8;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt;height:12.75pt'><p class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#7F7F7F'>W/gpm</span><o:p></o:p></p></td><td width=172 style='width:129.0pt;border:none;border-bottom:solid gray 1.0pt;background:#D8D8D8;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt;height:12.75pt'><p class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#7F7F7F'>N/A</span><o:p></o:p></p></td><td width=48 style='width:.5in;border:solid gray 1.0pt;border-top:none;background:#D8D8D8;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt;height:12.75pt'><p class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#7F7F7F'>W/gpm</span><o:p></o:p></p></td></tr><tr style='height:22.5pt'><td width=172 style='width:129.0pt;border:solid gray 1.0pt;border-top:none;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt;height:22.5pt'><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Secondary CHW Pump Flow</span><o:p></o:p></p></td><td width=291 valign=top style='width:218.0pt;border-top:none;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid gray 1.0pt;border-right:solid gray 1.0pt;background:#D8D8D8;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt;height:22.5pt'><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#404040'>Auto-sized with a capacity ratio of 1.0 based on CHW temperatures</span><o:p></o:p></p></td><td width=172 style='width:129.0pt;border:none;border-bottom:solid gray 1.0pt;background:#D8D8D8;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt;height:22.5pt'><p class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#7F7F7F'>N/A</span><o:p></o:p></p></td><td width=48 style='width:.5in;border:solid gray 1.0pt;border-top:none;background:#D8D8D8;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt;height:22.5pt'><p class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#7F7F7F'>gpm</span><o:p></o:p></p></td><td width=172 style='width:129.0pt;border:none;border-bottom:solid gray 1.0pt;background:#D8D8D8;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt;height:22.5pt'><p class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#7F7F7F'>N/A</span><o:p></o:p></p></td><td width=48 style='width:.5in;border:solid gray 1.0pt;border-top:none;background:#D8D8D8;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt;height:22.5pt'><p class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#7F7F7F'>gpm</span><o:p></o:p></p></td></tr><tr style='height:25.5pt'><td width=172 style='width:129.0pt;border:solid gray 1.0pt;border-top:none;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt;height:25.5pt'><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Secondary CHW Pump Control</span><o:p></o:p></p></td><td width=291 valign=top style='width:218.0pt;border-top:none;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid gray 1.0pt;border-right:solid gray 1.0pt;background:#D8D8D8;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt;height:25.5pt'><p class=MsoNormal><b><i><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#333333'><300 tons:</span></i></b><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#333333'> riding the pump curve<br><b><i>≥300 tons:</i></b> variable speed</span><o:p></o:p></p></td><td width=172 style='width:129.0pt;border:none;border-bottom:solid gray 1.0pt;background:#D8D8D8;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt;height:25.5pt'><p class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#7F7F7F'>N/A</span><o:p></o:p></p></td><td width=48 style='width:.5in;border:solid gray 1.0pt;border-top:none;background:#D8D8D8;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt;height:25.5pt'><p class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#7F7F7F'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></td><td width=172 style='width:129.0pt;border:none;border-bottom:solid gray 1.0pt;background:#D8D8D8;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt;height:25.5pt'><p class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#7F7F7F'>N/A</span><o:p></o:p></p></td><td width=48 style='width:.5in;border:solid gray 1.0pt;border-top:none;background:#D8D8D8;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt;height:25.5pt'><p class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#7F7F7F'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></td></tr></table><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Regardless of how ASHRAE has ruled, GBCI makes it pretty clear that you should use 22 W / gpm for both primary and secondary loop pumps.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#4D4F53'>GHT Limited</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#0C3844'>James Hansen, PE, LEED AP, BEMP</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#0C3844'>Senior Associate</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#0C3844'>1110 N. Glebe Road, Suite 300</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#0C3844'>Arlington, VA 22201</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#0C3844'>703.243.1200 (main)</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#0C3844'>703.338.5754 (direct/cell)</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><a href="http://www.ghtltd.com"><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:#C4BA00;text-decoration:none'>www.ghtltd.com</span></b></a></span><o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> <a href="mailto:equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org">equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org</a> [<a href="mailto:equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org">mailto:equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Nick Caton<br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, November 27, 2013 12:32 PM<br><b>To:</b> Christian Kaltreider; 'Bishop, Bill'; 'Joe Fleming'; <a href="mailto:equest-users@lists.onebuilding.org">equest-users@lists.onebuilding.org</a><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Equest-users] App G Baseline CHW Pump Power</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Thanks for bringing that back up - I thought this remained an ambiguous/grey area indefinitely. </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>As to potential for squeezing extra performance via power distribution between pumps… I’ve never considered that, but to share my anecdotal experience I typically just dump all the power on the secondary pumps and make the primary pumps “powerless” for simplicity’s sake in documentation/QC. I suppose for variable-secondary cases that approach might miss out on some baseline energy that would otherwise be burned by a CV primary…</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>A “logical” approach would be to proportion the ‘system’ 22W/GPM by a ratio to match the pump sizing in the actual design.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>That said, I’ve never been told to proportion my pump energies any differently than my simplified approach of dumping it all in one place.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Hope that helps =),</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>~Nick</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><img border=0 width=119 height=37 id="_x0000_i1032" src="cid:image008.jpg@01CEEB71.5F31E3E0" alt="cid:489575314@22072009-0ABB"></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Stylus BT","sans-serif";color:#2D4D5E'> </span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p 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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#2D4D5E'>fax 913.345.0617</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><a href="http://www.smithboucher.com">www.smithboucher.com</a></span><u><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:blue'> </span></u><o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> <a href="mailto:equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org">equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org</a> [<a href="mailto:equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org">mailto:equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Christian Kaltreider<br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, November 25, 2013 2:26 PM<br><b>To:</b> 'Bishop, Bill'; 'Joe Fleming'; <a href="mailto:equest-users@lists.onebuilding.org">equest-users@lists.onebuilding.org</a><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Equest-users] App G Baseline CHW Pump Power</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Yes, that lays it out pretty clearly. 22 W/GPM system total. </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I wonder if future 90.1 versions will prevent gaming of the system (intentional or not) by offering guidance on power allocation among pumps? </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Thanks for the helpful replies,</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Christian</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Bishop, Bill [<a href="mailto:bbishop@pathfinder-ea.com">mailto:bbishop@pathfinder-ea.com</a>] <br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, November 25, 2013 2:11 PM<br><b>To:</b> Joe Fleming; 'Christian Kaltreider'; <a href="mailto:equest-users@lists.onebuilding.org">equest-users@lists.onebuilding.org</a><br><b>Subject:</b> RE: [Equest-users] App G Baseline CHW Pump Power</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Christian,</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Confirming what Joe says, an <a href="https://www.ashrae.org/File%20Library/docLib/StdsInterpretations/IC-90-1-2007-14.pdf">ASHRAE interpretation</a> clarified that 22W/gpm is the total power of all baseline CHW pumps.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span 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style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>bbishop@pathfinder-ea.com</span></a></span><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'> </span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><a href="http://www.pathfinder-ea.com/"><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>www.pathfinder-ea.com</span></a></span><o:p></o:p></p></td></tr><tr style='height:26.3pt'><td width=370 valign=top style='width:277.4pt;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt;height:26.3pt'><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:Webdings;color:green'>P</span><span style='font-size:14.0pt;color:green'> </span><span style='font-size:7.5pt;color:green'>Sustainability – the forest AND the trees.</span><span style='font-size:18.0pt;font-family:Webdings;color:green'> </span><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:Webdings;color:green'>P</span><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:green'> </span><span style='font-size:14.0pt;color:green'> </span><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:Webdings;color:green'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></td></tr></table><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> <a href="mailto:equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org">equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org</a> [<a href="mailto:equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org">mailto:equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Joe Fleming<br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, November 25, 2013 2:07 PM<br><b>To:</b> 'Christian Kaltreider'; <a href="mailto:equest-users@lists.onebuilding.org">equest-users@lists.onebuilding.org</a><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Equest-users] App G Baseline CHW Pump Power</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Almost certain that the GBCI interprets it as a whole system divvy, not each pump with 22W/GPM.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Regards</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Corbel","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Joe Fleming </span></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Corbel","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>|<b> </b>PE, LEED AP BD+C, BEMP</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><i><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Corbel","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Commissioning Agent / Energy Modeler </span></i><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Corbel","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>| </span><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Corbel","sans-serif";color:#5B960C'>The Spinnaker Group</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Corbel","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>561.602.3132 |</span></b><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Corbel","sans-serif";color:#7F7F7F'> </span></b><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Corbel","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><a href="mailto:joe@thespinnakergroupinc.com">joe@thespinnakergroupinc.com</a></span></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Corbel","sans-serif";color:#7F7F7F'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> <a href="mailto:equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org">equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org</a> [<a href="mailto:equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org">mailto:equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Christian Kaltreider<br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, November 25, 2013 2:01 PM<br><b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:equest-users@lists.onebuilding.org">equest-users@lists.onebuilding.org</a><br><b>Subject:</b> [Equest-users] App G Baseline CHW Pump Power</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Hello,</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>In November 2010, around the same time someone was modeling a building that looked like a turkey, there was a conversation on this list about baseline CHW pump power:</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><a href="http://lists.onebuilding.org/htdig.cgi/equest-users-onebuilding.org/2010-November/006941.html">http://lists.onebuilding.org/htdig.cgi/equest-users-onebuilding.org/2010-November/006941.html</a><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Part of the discussion was some back and forth about how to apply G 3.1.3.10. This section calls for baseline pump power to equal 22W/GPM and for the CHW pumping configuration to be primary/secondary. Some had the opinion that each pump (primary and secondary loops) should have 22 W/GPM assigned to it, while others thought that the total CHW pump system power should sum to 22 W/GPM, and that it was up to the modeler to divvy up the power among pumps as they see fit. I did not see a clear conclusion. </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Does anyone know if a general consensus was reached?</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Thanks,</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Christian</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#595959'>Christian Kaltreider, LEED AP</span></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#595959'> | Energy Analyst</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#4F6228'>Sud Associates, P.A.</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#595959'> | T 828.255.4691 | F 828.255.4949 | <a href="http://www.sudassociates.com">www.sudassociates.com</a></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div></body></html>