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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Well, I would say that openings are
certainly "operable". "Operable" means "able to be opened" as far
as I'm concerned. Open is open.<br>
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You may have to explain it to the USGBC reviewer, but I would
expect this to be fine.<br>
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<pre class="moz-signature" cols="72">Robert Wichert P.Eng. LEED AP BD&C
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On 11/22/2013 12:00 PM, Christian Stalberg wrote:<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:windowtext">This
high bay warehouse building has no HVAC whatsoever. Not even
ventilation fans. Only fixed openings distributed across the
walls and at the roof. I do not know if LEED specifies
modeling only operable windows, but that is the example they
give in their guidebook. Again, I do not know if this
building would even qualify as enclosed space and therefore
be eligible for modeling. I have looked everywhere including
the LEEDuser forum and am unable to shed light on this
issue. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org">equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org</a>
[<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org">mailto:equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org</a>] <b>On
Behalf Of </b>Joe Huang<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, November 22, 2013 10:58 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:equest-users@lists.onebuilding.org">equest-users@lists.onebuilding.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Equest-users] natural ventilation
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<p class="MsoNormal">Christian,<br>
<br>
I'm still unclear what is the conundrum. Is it that LEED
modeling rules only specify operable natural ventilation, or
that you're unclear how to model fixed, i.e., uncontrolled,
natural ventilation?<br>
<br>
Joe<br>
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<pre>Joe Huang<o:p></o:p></pre>
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On 11/21/2013 4:58 PM, Christian Stalberg wrote: <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p>I’m getting no responses on the bldg-sim list so am trying
here too. <o:p></o:p></p>
<p> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p>I have a factory/warehouse that is using natural
ventilation for cooling. What is unusual is that the
openings are fixed openings. <o:p></o:p></p>
<p> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p>At first glance it seems that it would not even qualify as
an enclosed space and therefore would not be eligible for
energy modeling for LEED. The project is registered at USGBC
however, of course I realize that may mean nothing. <o:p></o:p></p>
<p> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p>If this project could be eligible for LEED certification, I
am trying to come up with an approach and all I can think of
is pretending the openings are operable and then following
the guidelines as outlined in the Advanced Energy Modeling
for LEED handbook. <o:p></o:p></p>
<p> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p>I would appreciate any guidance anyone can offer on this
seeming conundrum! <o:p></o:p></p>
<p> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p>_ <o:p></o:p></p>
<p>Christian Stalberg <o:p></o:p></p>
<p>Natural Intelligence, LLC <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p>Tel. 415.531.4610 <o:p></o:p></p>
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