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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body bgcolor=white lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Rotation rules were relaxed in 90.1 2010 (see below). Since 90.1 2010 = 90.1 2007 + addenda, and given that LEED allows use of addenda, you may not have to do rotations as long as you can justify that the orientation in your case was dictated by site considerations, find the addendum where the change was introduced, and reference it in your submittal. On the other hand, rotating in eQUEST is so easy that it may take you less time to do that than to justify exception to the reviewer. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><img width=563 height=229 id="_x0000_i1026" src="cid:image004.jpg@01CEE09E.A41F1C80"><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Good luck,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Maria<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext'> equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org [mailto:equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Joe Huang<br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, November 13, 2013 6:03 PM<br><b>To:</b> equest-users@lists.onebuilding.org<br><b>Cc:</b> Eley, Charles<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Equest-users] Building rotation around the compass<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Nick, Jeff, <br><br>I remember this issue coming up when I had lunch with Charles Eley a few months ago, but I don't dare repeat what I remembered Charles' saying, because my memory is not that good. Therefore, I'm forwarding this to Charles in hopes that he can chime in himself!<br><br>Joe<br><br><o:p></o:p></p><pre>Joe Huang<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>White Box Technologies, Inc.<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>346 Rheem Blvd., Suite 108D<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>Moraga CA 94556<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><a href="mailto:yjhuang@whiteboxtechnologies.com">yjhuang@whiteboxtechnologies.com</a><o:p></o:p></pre><pre><a href="http://weather.whiteboxtechnologies.com">http://weather.whiteboxtechnologies.com</a> for simulation-ready weather data<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>(o) (925)388-0265<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>(c) (510)928-2683<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>"building energy simulations at your fingertips"<o:p></o:p></pre><p class=MsoNormal><br>On 11/13/2013 2:05 PM, Nick Caton wrote: <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Hi Jeff,</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>My loose understanding is the line of “rotations or not” is drawn by whether it’s considered by LEED a “major renovation.” </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-.25in'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>100% new construction – do the rotations</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-.25in'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>100% existing renovation – no rotations</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-.25in'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Combination of new construction and existing renovation – do the rotations if the new construction (by footprint) exceeds the existing building areas (>50% new construction). For that case, the building orientation is considered an existing condition. Note these building areas are tallied under other credit templates, so if the figures are close be sure to coordinate your interpretation and figures on this point with others on your LEED team.</span><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>That’s the impression I’ve received between reviewers for a few projects anyway – I’m not certain whether this rule is actually in writing somewhere to cite. Perhaps someone else can chime in and inform/correct me on this?</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>For future reference, queries not specific to eQuest like this might reach more folks with answers to contribute via the [bldg.-sim] mailing list ;).</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Best regards,</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>~Nick</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><img border=0 width=119 height=37 id="Picture_x0020_1" src="cid:image003.jpg@01CEE09D.F29918D0" alt="cid:489575314@22072009-0ABB"></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt'> </span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><b>NICK CATON, P.E.</b><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#CC9900'>SENIOR ENGINEER</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#CC9900'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#2D4D5E'>Smith & Boucher Engineers</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#2D4D5E'>25501 west valley parkway, suite 200</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#2D4D5E'>olathe, ks 66061</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#2D4D5E'>direct 913.344.0036</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#2D4D5E'>fax 913.345.0617</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><a href="www.smithboucher.com" title="blocked::www.smithboucher.com"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>www.smithboucher.com</span></a></span><u><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:blue'> </span></u><o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid windowtext 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in;border-color:-moz-use-text-color -moz-use-text-color'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> <a href="mailto:equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org">equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org</a> [<a href="mailto:equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org">mailto:equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Jeff Ross-Bain<br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, November 13, 2013 2:53 PM<br><b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:equest-users@lists.onebuilding.org">equest-users@lists.onebuilding.org</a><br><b>Subject:</b> [Equest-users] Building rotation around the compass</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Hi, eQuest Masters– this is my week for easy questions (I think):</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>I know that a new stand-alone building gets the 4-point rotation.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>I know that an existing building project does not.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>However, what is the protocol when one has an all new addition to an existing building. The new addition under consideration doubles the floor area and is registered for LEED certification?</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Rotate or not? My guess is not.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Thanks.</span><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:8.0pt'>Jeff Ross-Bain, PE, </span></b><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Century Gothic","sans-serif";color:#006E78'>LEED AP BD+C, BEMP</span><span style='font-size:7.5pt'><br>Principal</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:7.5pt'>404-220-8940 Office</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:7.5pt'>404-220-8955 Direct</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><b><span style='font-size:7.5pt'><a href="http://www.rbgb.com/">www.rbgb.com</a></span></b><span style='font-size:7.5pt'><br><br></span><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Century Gothic","sans-serif";color:#006E78'>Build Green. 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