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<b>On Behalf Of </b>David Griffin<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, November 04, 2013 4:20 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> 'Coleman, Kevin'; equest-users@lists.onebuilding.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Equest-users] Slab extending through wall<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#17365D">I’m fairly sure eQUEST is not even going to closely approximate the heat loss/gain accurately unless you dial the loads in manually which means you have to calculate them by hand
first. I suggest referring to ASHRAE-D-RP-1365 for guidance on estimating the loads. The section you are interested in starts on page 35.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> Coleman, Kevin [<a href="mailto:kcoleman@nexant.com">mailto:kcoleman@nexant.com</a>]
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<b>Sent:</b> Monday, November 04, 2013 11:56 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:equest-users@lists.onebuilding.org">equest-users@lists.onebuilding.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Equest-users] Slab extending through wall<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I am evaluating a new 10-story hotel design that is proposing glass curtain walls and pre-tensioned concrete floors that project beyond the walls. On 3 sides the projections are minimal (6 inches). However, on one side, the projections
extend about 3 ft. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">For the small projections, I intent to use the following method recommended in the thread below. “In screen 4 of 25 of the DD shell wizard you can specify "Slab Penetrates Wall Plane" (check box).”<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I am interested in any tips for modeling the thermal impacts of the larger projections. Thoughts? (I plan to use window shading for the light/shading impacts.)<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I am hopeful that the analysis will help convince the design team to incorporate some insulation and thermal breaks!<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Thanks in advance!<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Kevin<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">In screen 4 of 25 of the DD shell wizard you can specify "Slab
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<p class="MsoNormal">Penetrates Wall Plane" (check box). If you do, eQUEST created a new
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<p class="MsoNormal">wall type of height equal to your slab thickness and composed of 1' of
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<p class="MsoNormal">concrete plus any slab edge insulation you specify on the same wiz
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<p class="MsoNormal">screen. That provides a parallel path for the heat transfer from the
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<p class="MsoNormal">balcony or slab edge. Not exactly 2D heat transfer modelling -- but at
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<p class="MsoNormal">least you aren't ignoring the effect of the slab edge or balcony.<o:p></o:p></p>
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