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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Does anyone know the timeline for the
      DOE2.3 release?<br>
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      On 10/31/2013 11:06 AM, Nick Caton wrote:<br>
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        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">I’d
            like to briefly share a caution with respect to “data
            centers” in the 3.65 wizards as passed on to me by J. J.
            Hirsch.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">If
            you select specific building types for your shells (such as
            hospitals), you will have the option to define “computer
            server” and “IT equipment” for your space use allocations
            later in the shell definition screens.  Doing so will in
            turn will tell the wizards to call for a default “data
            center hvac” system.  This is all something to AVOID, as
            they’re features of DOE2.3 which shouldn’t be appearing
            (yet) in eQuest.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">On
            a related point, under specific circumstances you may see
            the option to tick a box that reads “Has a supply plenum” in
            the zone names and characteristics screen.  This will define
            underfloor supply plenums (I observed this in the 3D view at
            one point), which are also “leaked” features of the DOE2.3
            wizards that should be avoided at present.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">If
            you run into these things, I advise avoiding them entirely. 
            I personally ran into some rough wizard crashes that pushed
            me to re-start a project in 3.64.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Mr.
            Hirsch has shared his team intends to clean up these
            “leaked” features and to update the 3.65 install file posted
            online.  I’m not sure if/when we’ll get a heads up that that
            has (or already has) happened, but in any case if you are
            choosing to use 3.65 for any new project I’d strongly
            recommend ensuring you are working with the most recent
            build available – check the posting dates in the name of
            your install file against what’s currently available on the
            doe2 website.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Best
            regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">~Nick<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                style="font-family:"Stylus
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                CATON, P.E.<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
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style="font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#CC9900">SENIOR
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              & Boucher Engineers</span><span
              style="font-size:7.5pt;color:#CC9900"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#2D4D5E">direct
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              913.345.0617<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><a
                moz-do-not-send="true" href="www.smithboucher.com"
                title="blocked::www.smithboucher.com"><span
                  style="font-size:10.0pt">www.smithboucher.com</span></a></span><u><span
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              </span></u><span
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              style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">
                <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org">equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org</a>
                [<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org">mailto:equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org</a>]
                <b>On Behalf Of </b>Tim Johnson<br>
                <b>Sent:</b> Thursday, October 31, 2013 9:53 AM<br>
                <b>To:</b> R B; eQUEST Users List<br>
                <b>Subject:</b> Re: [Equest-users] 3.65 - new feature?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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        <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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              style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Segoe
              UI","sans-serif"">I haven't used 3.65 that
              much, but I like the new airside summary and .sim viewer,
              they are quite a bit easier to use.  You can also batch
              plot your reports, which will save a lot of time for LEED
              submittals.  The other thing I noticed from my first real
              attempt at 3.65 the building shade definition.  You can
              now use polygons for building shades.  This will come in
              handy on occasion.  I haven't seen big differences in
              modeling capabilities, but the interface improvements are
              appreciated.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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              style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Segoe
              UI","sans-serif"">Tim<br>
              <br>
              >>> R B <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                href="mailto:slv3sat@gmail.com">slv3sat@gmail.com</a>>
              10/31/2013 8:42 AM >>><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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              style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span
                style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Segoe
                UI","sans-serif"">I am just now finishing
                up with a project using the new version - haven't come
                across anything different (could be that none of the
                updates are relevant to my project). Could you please
                describe some of the nice features that you mention?
                <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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              style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span
                style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Segoe
                UI","sans-serif"">Here is the stuff that
                looked different at the wizard level (haven't used it) -<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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              style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span
                style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Segoe
                UI","sans-serif"">1. Something about data
                center in the wizard - I think it helps with data center
                modelling? Also allows the location of thermostat in the
                zone vs return air<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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              style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span
                style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Segoe
                UI","sans-serif"">2. Humidity can be set
                at the wizard level.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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              style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span
                style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Segoe
                UI","sans-serif"">3. Allows water side
                economizer input<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal"
              style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span
                style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Segoe
                UI","sans-serif"">4. A database related
                button at the zone level?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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              style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span
                style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Segoe
                UI","sans-serif"">Don't think I saw
                anything new in the detailed level.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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              style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span
                style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Segoe
                UI","sans-serif"">Thanks,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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              style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span
                style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Segoe
                UI","sans-serif"">-Rohini<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="mso-margin-top-alt:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:0in"><span
                style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Segoe
                UI","sans-serif""><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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                style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span
                  style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Segoe
                  UI","sans-serif"">On Thu, Oct 31, 2013
                  at 9:14 AM, Tim Johnson <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                    href="mailto:timj@ctagroup.com" target="_blank">timj@ctagroup.com</a>>
                  wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                    style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span
                      style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Segoe
                      UI","sans-serif"">Hopefully these
                      bugs can be worked out. There are some nice
                      features with the new version, but with the
                      autocad issues and the hourly report issues, I am
                      with you, Brian. Jeff, I appreciate the update. We
                      will be looking for the updates.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                    style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span
                      style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Segoe
                      UI","sans-serif"">Thanks,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                  <pre><strong><span style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:maroon">Tim Johnson</span></strong><o:p></o:p></pre>
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                    <pre><span style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:gray">Mechanical Engineer</span><o:p></o:p></pre>
                    <pre><span style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:gray">o <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="tel:208.336.4900" target="_blank">208.336.4900</a> | d <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="tel:208.577.5645" target="_blank">208.577.5645</a></span><o:p></o:p></pre>
                    <pre> <o:p></o:p></pre>
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                    style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span
                      style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Segoe
                      UI","sans-serif"">>>>
                      Brian Smith <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                        href="mailto:brians@murraypc.com"
                        target="_blank">brians@murraypc.com</a>>
                      10/30/2013 10:49 AM >>><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                      <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Nathan's
                          suggestion is the only one that I have been
                          able to make work. It should be easier than
                          this. I have tried re-installing and running
                          in compatibility mode without much luck,
                          backsaving and even saving as a .dxf, but the
                          layer list continually remains empty after
                          supposedly uploading. Might sit this update
                          out unless I'm losing out on something huge</span><o:p></o:p></p>
                      <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Regards</span><o:p></o:p></p>
                      <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Brian
                          Smith, </span><span
                          style="font-size:10.0pt;color:#1F497D">Mechanical
                          Design Engineer</span><o:p></o:p></p>
                      <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                          style="font-size:10.0pt;color:#1F497D">Murray
                          & Associates, P.C.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
                      <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                          style="font-size:9.0pt;color:#1F497D">T/<a
                            moz-do-not-send="true"
                            href="tel:907.780.6151" target="_blank">907.780.6151</a>
                          F/<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                            href="tel:907.780.6182" target="_blank">907.780.6182</a></span><o:p></o:p></p>
                      <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                          style="font-size:9.0pt;color:#1F497D"><a
                            moz-do-not-send="true"
                            href="http://www.murraypc.com"
                            target="_blank">www.murraypc.com</a></span><o:p></o:p></p>
                      <div>
                        <div style="border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF
                          1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in">
                          <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">
                              Nathan Miller [mailto:<a
                                moz-do-not-send="true"
                                href="mailto:nathanm@rushingco.com"
                                target="_blank">nathanm@rushingco.com</a>]
                              <br>
                              <b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, October 29, 2013
                              1:46 PM<br>
                              <b>To:</b> Tim Johnson; 'Bruce
                              Easterbrook'; 'Nick Caton'; <a
                                moz-do-not-send="true"
                                href="mailto:ssavich@systemswestengineers.com"
                                target="_blank">
                                ssavich@systemswestengineers.com</a><br>
                              <b>Cc:</b> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                                href="mailto:equest-users@lists.onebuilding.org"
                                target="_blank">equest-users@lists.onebuilding.org</a>;
                              <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                                href="mailto:brians@murraypc.com"
                                target="_blank">brians@murraypc.com</a><br>
                              <b>Subject:</b> RE: [Equest-users] 3.65 -
                              new feature?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
                        </div>
                      </div>
                      <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">We
                          have had the same issue, absolutely no success
                          in getting an autoCAD file to show up in 3.65
                          despite multiple attempts at file format, file
                          simplification, etc.
                        </span><o:p></o:p></p>
                      <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">So
                          far we have resorted to creating the building
                          geometry in 3.64 and importing that into a
                          “blank” 3.65 project. It is an awkward
                          work-around at best.
                        </span><o:p></o:p></p>
                      <div>
                        <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#632423">Nathan
                              Miller
                            </span></b><b><span
style="font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">-</span></b><b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#632423">
                            </span></b><b><span
style="font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#632423">PE,
                              LEED<sup>®</sup>AP BD+C, CEM</span></b><o:p></o:p></p>
                        <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:4.0pt"><i><span
style="font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"">Mechanical
                              Engineer/Senior Energy Analyst
                            </span></i><o:p></o:p></p>
                        <p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height:115%"><b><span
style="font-size:8.0pt;line-height:115%;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#632423">RUSHING</span></b><span
style="font-size:8.0pt;line-height:115%;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#BFAB7F">
                          </span><span
style="font-size:8.0pt;line-height:115%;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"">|
                            <b><span style="color:#632423">D</span></b><span
                              style="color:#BFAB7F"> </span><a
                              moz-do-not-send="true"
                              href="tel:206-788-4577" target="_blank">206-788-4577</a>
                            |<span style="color:#BFAB7F">
                            </span><b><span style="color:#632423">O</span></b><span
                              style="color:#A50021"> </span>
                            <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                              href="tel:206-285-7100" target="_blank">206-285-7100</a></span><o:p></o:p></p>
                        <p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height:115%"><b><span
style="font-size:8.0pt;line-height:115%;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#6F1200"><a
                                moz-do-not-send="true"
                                href="http://www.rushingco.com/"
                                target="_blank"><span
                                  style="color:#6F1200">www.rushingco.com</span></a></span></b><o:p></o:p></p>
                      </div>
                      <div>
                        <div style="border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1
                          1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in">
                          <p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> <a
                              moz-do-not-send="true"
                              href="mailto:equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org"
                              target="_blank">
                              equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org</a>
                            [<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                              href="mailto:equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org"
                              target="_blank">mailto:equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org</a>]
                            <b>On Behalf Of </b>Tim Johnson<br>
                            <b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, October 29, 2013 2:24
                            PM<br>
                            <b>To:</b> 'Bruce Easterbrook'; 'Nick
                            Caton'; <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                              href="mailto:ssavich@systemswestengineers.com"
                              target="_blank">
                              ssavich@systemswestengineers.com</a><br>
                            <b>Cc:</b> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                              href="mailto:equest-users@lists.onebuilding.org"
                              target="_blank">equest-users@lists.onebuilding.org</a>;
                            <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                              href="mailto:brians@murraypc.com"
                              target="_blank">brians@murraypc.com</a><br>
                            <b>Subject:</b> Re: [Equest-users] 3.65 -
                            new feature?<o:p></o:p></p>
                        </div>
                      </div>
                      <div>
                        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                            style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Segoe
                            UI","sans-serif"">Did anyone
                            come up with a solution for this issue? It
                            doesn't seem to be an issue with origin,
                            file complexity, or AutoCAD version. If I
                            use AutoCAD 2014 it tells me I have an
                            invalid file version. Older versions act
                            like they are working, but the layer list is
                            empty. It doesn't matter where I set my
                            origin or how I set up the AutoCAD files. I
                            use a separate eQUEST layer for all my new
                            model imports as previously described. Could
                            this be an issue with the installation? I
                            have eQUEST 3.64 installed on my machine as
                            well and the file import works just fine.
                            Any suggestions?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
                      </div>
                      <div>
                        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                            style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Segoe
                            UI","sans-serif"">Thanks,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
                      </div>
                      <div>
                        <p class="MsoNormal"
                          style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span
                            style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Segoe
                            UI","sans-serif"">Tim</span><o:p></o:p></p>
                      </div>
                      <div>
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                          cellspacing="0" align="left" border="0">
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                                valign="top">
                                <pre style="mso-element:frame;mso-element-frame-hspace:2.25pt;mso-element-wrap:around;mso-element-anchor-vertical:paragraph;mso-element-anchor-horizontal:column;mso-height-rule:exactly"><strong><span style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:maroon">Tim Johnson, PE, BEMP, LEED AP</span></strong><o:p></o:p></pre>
                                <pre style="mso-element:frame;mso-element-frame-hspace:2.25pt;mso-element-wrap:around;mso-element-anchor-vertical:paragraph;mso-element-anchor-horizontal:column;mso-height-rule:exactly"><span style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:gray">Mechanical Engineer</span><o:p></o:p></pre>
                                <pre style="mso-element:frame;mso-element-frame-hspace:2.25pt;mso-element-wrap:around;mso-element-anchor-vertical:paragraph;mso-element-anchor-horizontal:column;mso-height-rule:exactly"><span style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:gray">o <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="tel:208.336.4900" target="_blank">208.336.4900</a> | d <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="tel:208.577.5645" target="_blank">208.577.5645</a></span><o:p></o:p></pre>
                                <pre style="mso-element:frame;mso-element-frame-hspace:2.25pt;mso-element-wrap:around;mso-element-anchor-vertical:paragraph;mso-element-anchor-horizontal:column;mso-height-rule:exactly"><o:p></o:p></pre>
                                <p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-element:frame;mso-element-frame-hspace:2.25pt;mso-element-wrap:around;mso-element-anchor-vertical:paragraph;mso-element-anchor-horizontal:column;mso-height-rule:exactly"><span
                                    style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Segoe
                                    UI","sans-serif"">>>>
                                    "Steven Savich" <<a
                                      moz-do-not-send="true"
                                      href="mailto:ssavich@systemswestengineers.com"
                                      target="_blank">ssavich@systemswestengineers.com</a>>
                                    10/10/2013 9:31 AM >>></span><o:p></o:p></p>
                                <p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-element:frame;mso-element-frame-hspace:2.25pt;mso-element-wrap:around;mso-element-anchor-vertical:paragraph;mso-element-anchor-horizontal:column;mso-height-rule:exactly"><span
                                    style="color:#1F497D">I use
                                    basically the same process to set up
                                    my CAD file for import. Can’t stress
                                    enough how much time & headache
                                    you can save yourself in the Wizard
                                    CAD import process by taking some
                                    extra time up front to do exactly
                                    what Bruce describes below,
                                    especially resetting coordinates and
                                    making an equest layer.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
                                <p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-element:frame;mso-element-frame-hspace:2.25pt;mso-element-wrap:around;mso-element-anchor-vertical:paragraph;mso-element-anchor-horizontal:column;mso-height-rule:exactly"><span
                                    style="color:#1F497D">If I’m working
                                    on a building with multiple floors
                                    that have different footprints or
                                    zone types/sizes, I also consolidate
                                    all of the zone outlines in one
                                    autocad file, with a separate layer
                                    for each floor, and match up the
                                    origin points.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
                                <p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-element:frame;mso-element-frame-hspace:2.25pt;mso-element-wrap:around;mso-element-anchor-vertical:paragraph;mso-element-anchor-horizontal:column;mso-height-rule:exactly"><span
                                    style="color:#1F497D">Steven</span><o:p></o:p></p>
                                <p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-element:frame;mso-element-frame-hspace:2.25pt;mso-element-wrap:around;mso-element-anchor-vertical:paragraph;mso-element-anchor-horizontal:column;mso-height-rule:exactly"><b>From:</b>
                                  <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                                    href="mailto:equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org"
                                    target="_blank">
equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org</a> [<a
                                    moz-do-not-send="true"
                                    href="mailto:equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org"
                                    target="_blank">mailto:equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org</a>]
                                  <b>On Behalf Of </b>Bruce Easterbrook<br>
                                  <b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, October 09,
                                  2013 8:41 PM<br>
                                  <b>To:</b> Nick Caton<br>
                                  <b>Cc:</b> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:equest-users@lists.onebuilding.org" target="_blank">equest-users@lists.onebuilding.org</a>;
                                  <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                                    href="mailto:brians@murraypc.com"
                                    target="_blank">brians@murraypc.com</a><br>
                                  <b>Subject:</b> Re: [Equest-users]
                                  3.65 - new feature?<o:p></o:p></p>
                                <p class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12.0pt;mso-element:frame;mso-element-frame-hspace:2.25pt;mso-element-wrap:around;mso-element-anchor-vertical:paragraph;mso-element-anchor-horizontal:column;mso-height-rule:exactly"><span
                                    style="font-size:13.5pt">Ditto,
                                    AutoCad is getting more complicated
                                    and the way it is used is much
                                    different than a decade ago. I
                                    always double check the origin of
                                    the AutoCad drawing and reset it to
                                    0,0. I also set eQuest to 0,0 as
                                    well. File sizes can be huge. I
                                    always make an eQuest layer in
                                    AutoCad to simplify the co-ordinates
                                    and snap points, just a line
                                    diagram. On big files I will dump
                                    everything except the layer I
                                    created. When equest was created the
                                    CAD files were 500k, now they run 5M
                                    to 15M or more, 70 layers, xRefs. I
                                    don't think eQuest was set up to get
                                    whacked like that. It is just like
                                    an excel box when the number is too
                                    big, you just get number symbols.
                                    AutoCad files used to be slim and
                                    trim, it amazed me what was on a
                                    drawing and how little file space it
                                    took on the hard drive, this is not
                                    the case now. A big key is matching
                                    the origins on both programs. For me
                                    the bottom left of the building or
                                    buildings is always 0,0. There was
                                    an inquiry a week or so ago about a
                                    second building import overlaying
                                    the original building. Same problem.
                                    eQuest allows you to manipulate the
                                    origins. You can set other buildings
                                    down where you want if you pay
                                    attention. Computers have zero
                                    intelligence. They do what you tell
                                    then, they have limitations. If it
                                    doesn't fit in the box things
                                    explode in unintended ways.<br>
                                    Bruce Easterbrook P.Eng<br>
                                    Abode Engineering</span><o:p></o:p></p>
                                <p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-element:frame;mso-element-frame-hspace:2.25pt;mso-element-wrap:around;mso-element-anchor-vertical:paragraph;mso-element-anchor-horizontal:column;mso-height-rule:exactly">On
                                  09/10/2013 5:21 PM, Nick Caton wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
                                <blockquote
                                  style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt">
                                  <p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-element:frame;mso-element-frame-hspace:2.25pt;mso-element-wrap:around;mso-element-anchor-vertical:paragraph;mso-element-anchor-horizontal:column;mso-height-rule:exactly"><span
                                      style="color:#1F497D">I’ve had
                                      good luck so far with a 3.65
                                      project currently importing… 6
                                      different CAD references… more to
                                      come however.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
                                  <p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-element:frame;mso-element-frame-hspace:2.25pt;mso-element-wrap:around;mso-element-anchor-vertical:paragraph;mso-element-anchor-horizontal:column;mso-height-rule:exactly"><span
                                      style="color:#1F497D">When you
                                      import a new file, are the origin
                                      coordinates wildly off? If that is
                                      the issue, your “invisible”
                                      reference might appear far on the
                                      periphery if you zoom way out. I
                                      did notice that occurring a few
                                      times in this project (although
                                      this issue happened with previous
                                      versions of eQuest) and corrected
                                      to match the coordinates of
                                      previous imports.
                                    </span><o:p></o:p></p>
                                  <p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-element:frame;mso-element-frame-hspace:2.25pt;mso-element-wrap:around;mso-element-anchor-vertical:paragraph;mso-element-anchor-horizontal:column;mso-height-rule:exactly"><span
                                      style="color:#1F497D">I have no
                                      idea exactly what causes this
                                      behavior & how to prevent it
                                      in the first place. Still, to sync
                                      coordinates I think the easiest
                                      way is when you first see the
                                      prompt on locating x/y coordinates
                                      for a new import, the CAD file
                                      name in that same dialog is a
                                      dropdown you can toggle to view
                                      the other imports you already
                                      have. By reference you can
                                      edit/correct the new file’s
                                      settings to match the others.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
                                  <p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-element:frame;mso-element-frame-hspace:2.25pt;mso-element-wrap:around;mso-element-anchor-vertical:paragraph;mso-element-anchor-horizontal:column;mso-height-rule:exactly"><span
                                      style="color:#1F497D">Hope that
                                      helps!</span><o:p></o:p></p>
                                  <p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-element:frame;mso-element-frame-hspace:2.25pt;mso-element-wrap:around;mso-element-anchor-vertical:paragraph;mso-element-anchor-horizontal:column;mso-height-rule:exactly"><span
                                      style="color:#1F497D">~Nick</span><o:p></o:p></p>
                                  <p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-element:frame;mso-element-frame-hspace:2.25pt;mso-element-wrap:around;mso-element-anchor-vertical:paragraph;mso-element-anchor-horizontal:column;mso-height-rule:exactly"><o:p></o:p></p>
                                  <p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-element:frame;mso-element-frame-hspace:2.25pt;mso-element-wrap:around;mso-element-anchor-vertical:paragraph;mso-element-anchor-horizontal:column;mso-height-rule:exactly"><b>NICK
                                      CATON, P.E.</b><o:p></o:p></p>
                                  <p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-element:frame;mso-element-frame-hspace:2.25pt;mso-element-wrap:around;mso-element-anchor-vertical:paragraph;mso-element-anchor-horizontal:column;mso-height-rule:exactly"><span
style="font-size:7.5pt;color:#CC9900">SENIOR ENGINEER</span><o:p></o:p></p>
                                  <p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-element:frame;mso-element-frame-hspace:2.25pt;mso-element-wrap:around;mso-element-anchor-vertical:paragraph;mso-element-anchor-horizontal:column;mso-height-rule:exactly"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;color:#2D4D5E">Smith & Boucher Engineers</span><o:p></o:p></p>
                                  <p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-element:frame;mso-element-frame-hspace:2.25pt;mso-element-wrap:around;mso-element-anchor-vertical:paragraph;mso-element-anchor-horizontal:column;mso-height-rule:exactly"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;color:#2D4D5E">25501 west valley parkway, suite
                                      200</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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style="font-size:10.0pt;color:#2D4D5E">olathe, ks 66061</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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style="font-size:10.0pt;color:#2D4D5E">direct <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                                        href="tel:913.344.0036"
                                        target="_blank">
                                        913.344.0036</a></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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style="font-size:10.0pt;color:#2D4D5E">fax <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                                        href="tel:913.345.0617"
                                        target="_blank">
                                        913.345.0617</a></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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                                      style="color:#1F497D"><a
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                                        href="http://www.smithboucher.com"
                                        target="_blank"
                                        title="blocked::www.smithboucher.com"><span
                                          style="font-size:10.0pt">www.smithboucher.com</span></a></span><u><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;color:blue">
                                      </span></u><o:p></o:p></p>
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style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">
                                      Patrick J. O'Leary, Jr. [<a
                                        moz-do-not-send="true"
                                        href="mailto:poleary1969@gmail.com"
                                        target="_blank">mailto:poleary1969@gmail.com</a>]
                                      <br>
                                      <b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, October
                                      09, 2013 3:25 PM<br>
                                      <b>To:</b> <a
                                        moz-do-not-send="true"
                                        href="mailto:brians@murraypc.com"
                                        target="_blank">brians@murraypc.com</a><br>
                                      <b>Cc:</b> Nick Caton; <a
                                        moz-do-not-send="true"
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equest-users@lists.onebuilding.org</a><br>
                                      <b>Subject:</b> Re: [Equest-users]
                                      3.65 - new feature?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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style="mso-element:frame;mso-element-frame-hspace:2.25pt;mso-element-wrap:around;mso-element-anchor-vertical:paragraph;mso-element-anchor-horizontal:column;mso-height-rule:exactly">any
                                    difference if using a different
                                    autocad version to import? 2004,
                                    2007, 2011? 2004 had always worked
                                    best for me since it was less
                                    complicated than newer versions.<br>
                                    <br>
                                    On 10/9/13 12:19 PM, Brian Smith
                                    wrote: <o:p></o:p></p>
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                                      style="color:#1F497D">In the new
                                      format I have been having trouble
                                      uploading a CAD drawing for a
                                      custom footprint. I'll go through
                                      the normal process of uploading
                                      the CAD, hit apply to add the CAD
                                      drawing background, and nothing
                                      will show up. I check the layer
                                      visibility and no layers are shown
                                      to check or uncheck. So I'll try
                                      to add a drawing again, same
                                      result or just outright freeze of
                                      eQuest. Anyone experiencing these
                                      problems</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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                                      style="color:#1F497D">Thanks</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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                                      style="color:#1F497D">Brian Smith,
                                    </span><span
                                      style="font-size:10.0pt;color:#1F497D">Mechanical
                                      Design Engineer</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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style="font-size:10.0pt;color:#1F497D">Murray & Associates, P.C.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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style="font-size:9.0pt;color:#1F497D">T/<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                                        href="tel:907.780.6151"
                                        target="_blank">907.780.6151</a>
                                      F/<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                                        href="tel:907.780.6182"
                                        target="_blank">907.780.6182</a></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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style="font-size:9.0pt;color:#1F497D"><a moz-do-not-send="true"
                                        href="http://www.murraypc.com"
                                        target="_blank">www.murraypc.com</a></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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