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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>The following article is a good read since it is related: <a href="http://www.nrel.gov/sustainable_nrel/pdfs/47522.pdf">http://www.nrel.gov/sustainable_nrel/pdfs/47522.pdf</a>. Some background info is given with regard to the shortfalls of DOE2 daylighting vs backward raytracing aka Radiance-based tools also, so I thought I'd post it for reference. It also gives a good play-by-play in context of the NREL RSF case study, which incorporated the use of SPOT, an Excel-based tool which runs Radiance in the background. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>That said, IESVE currently would fit better in your process obviously since it's already being used in the project as you say. Similarly, as is described for SPOT in the article, exporting a dimming schedule from IES is simple from its Vista module once the simulation is done, and then imported into eQuest. Apparently lots of other schedules were created during the RSF design with software tools better suited for various analyses but the central energy model was crunched by eQuest I believe using those imported schedules. SPOT may still be of use as it is supposed to find the optimal sensor placement, but any sensor placement will need to be consistent with actual lighting layout/circuits anyways. Anyone familiar with SPOT might be able to contribute.<b><o:p></o:p></b></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>Kent Beason<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>-------------------------<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>office - 903 581 2291<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>cell - 830 609 8904<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Sami, Vikram [mailto:vikram.sami@zgf.com] <br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, August 13, 2013 7:26 PM<br><b>To:</b> Bishop, Bill; David Griffin; 'Busman, Michael R'; equest-users@lists.onebuilding.org<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Equest-users] Input function with daylight factors for accurate daylighting<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial Narrow","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Couple of suggestions:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial Narrow","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:"Arial Narrow","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>1.<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-family:"Arial Narrow","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Run the model in IES – I think they have a better daylight algorithm. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:"Arial Narrow","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>2.<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-family:"Arial Narrow","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Use Daysim - you can get hourly light level readings from Daysim that you can postprocess to create a lighting schedule in eQUEST. This is probably fairly labor intensive. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial Narrow","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><table class=MsoNormalTable border=0 cellpadding=0><tr><td valign=top style='padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='line-height:12.0pt'><b><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Futura LT Book";color:#E33B45'>Vikram Sami</span></b><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:#1F497D'><br></span><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Futura LT Book";color:#666666'>Associate Partner</span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p></td><td width=16 style='width:12.0pt;padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='line-height:12.0pt'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:#1F497D'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></td><td valign=top style='padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='line-height:12.0pt'><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Futura LT Book";color:#666666'>ZGF ARCHITECTS LLP</span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:#1F497D'><br></span><b><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Futura LT Book";color:#E33B45'>T </span></b><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Futura LT Book";color:#666666'>206.521.3509 </span><b><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Futura LT Book";color:#E33B45'>E </span></b><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Futura LT Book";color:#666666'><a href="mailto:vikram.sami@zgf.com">vikram.sami@zgf.com</a></span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:#1F497D'><br></span><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Futura LT Book";color:#666666'>925 Fourth Avenue, Suite 2400 <br>Seattle, WA 98104</span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p></td></tr></table></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial Narrow","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> <a href="mailto:equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org">equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org</a> [<a href="mailto:equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org">mailto:equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Bishop, Bill<br><b>Sent:</b> Friday, August 09, 2013 1:42 PM<br><b>To:</b> David Griffin; 'Busman, Michael R'; <a href="mailto:equest-users@lists.onebuilding.org">equest-users@lists.onebuilding.org</a><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Equest-users] Input function with daylight factors for accurate daylighting<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>David,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>You can get a sense of the clerestory windows, curtain walls etc. in these views. Obviously, this will be fun geometry in eQUEST. The design team is also modeling it in IES-VE – I will see if they can get me their daylighting output for comparison.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><img border=0 width=1486 height=545 id="Picture_x0020_2" src="cid:image001.png@01CE9902.AC738800"><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><img border=0 width=1310 height=716 id="Picture_x0020_5" src="cid:image002.png@01CE9902.AC738800"><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>~Bill<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> David Griffin [<a href="mailto:dgriffin@etcgrp.com">mailto:dgriffin@etcgrp.com</a>] <br><b>Sent:</b> Friday, August 09, 2013 4:30 PM<br><b>To:</b> 'Busman, Michael R'; Bishop, Bill; <a href="mailto:equest-users@lists.onebuilding.org">equest-users@lists.onebuilding.org</a><br><b>Subject:</b> RE: [Equest-users] Input function with daylight factors for accurate daylighting<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#17365D'>Bill,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#17365D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#17365D'>Since eQUEST utilizes a split flux calculation which averages lighting levels, it is not super accurate when it comes to daylighting. You can, however, use daylighting to approximate energy savings in eQUEST using appropriately zoned perimeters spaces and sunspaces.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#17365D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#17365D'>If you truly want accurate daylighting in eQUEST, you’re going to have to use a third party software and create an 8760 schedule within eQuest to reflect the results (I suggest using a GUI for Radiance such as AGi32).<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#17365D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#17365D'>If I knew exactly what you were trying to do and had a better sense of the geometry you are working with, I could assist you further.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#17365D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#17365D'>Unlike Mike, the song is BEFORE my time, but I’ll spare you the old guy jokes ;)<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#17365D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#17365D'>Thanks</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#17365D'>,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#17365D'><o:p> </o:p></span></b></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#17365D'>David Griffin<o:p></o:p></span></b></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#B8CCE4'>Energy Analyst<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#17365D'>ETC Group, LLC<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#17365D'>801.278.1927 ext. 128<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#17365D'>Cell 480.235.0899<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#17365D'>Fax 801.486.0668<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><a href="mailto:dgriffin@etcgrp.com"><span style='color:black;text-decoration:none'>dgriffin@etcgrp.com</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#17365D'><img border=0 width=112 height=27 id="Picture_x0020_0" src="cid:image003.jpg@01CE9902.AC738800" alt="Copy of ETC_LogoOnly2_rgb_sm.png"></span><span style='font-size:6.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:6.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>1997 South 1100 East, Suite 201, Salt Lake City, UT 84106-4471 – <a href="http://www.etcgrp.com/">www.etcgrp.com</a><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-size:6.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- <br>CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE This e-mail transmission, and any documents, files or previous e-mail messages attached to it may contain confidential information that is legally privileged. 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Thank you.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#17365D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Busman, Michael R [<a href="mailto:MBusman@chevron.com">mailto:MBusman@chevron.com</a>] <br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, August 08, 2013 2:56 PM<br><b>To:</b> Bishop, Bill; <a href="mailto:equest-users@lists.onebuilding.org">equest-users@lists.onebuilding.org</a><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Equest-users] Input function with daylight factors for accurate daylighting<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Bill,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Sorry, but I can’t help you out on your daylighting question. I’m also sorry, but the song was AFTER my time. I’m more into 60’s & 70’s music and boogie woogie and piano blues artists who died 50 or more years ago. </span><span style='font-size:22.0pt;font-family:Wingdings;color:#1F497D'>J</span><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Mike Busman<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> <a href="mailto:equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org">equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org</a> [<a href="mailto:equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org">mailto:equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Bishop, Bill<br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, August 08, 2013 10:25 AM<br><b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:equest-users@lists.onebuilding.org">equest-users@lists.onebuilding.org</a><br><b>Subject:</b> [Equest-users] Input function with daylight factors for accurate daylighting<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>I am modeling a building with many clerestory windows of various orientations in a complex roof geometry. I would like to accurately model the daylighting savings in eQUEST. Has anyone had luck creating an input function that uses daylight illuminance factors, <a href="http://simulationresearch.lbl.gov/dirpubs/complex_dayltg.pdf">as described by Steve Baker</a> back when Bush Sr. was president and <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9EcjWd-O4jI">this song</a> was a Top 10 hit? “Limitations of the Daylighting Calculation” and an “Example of Using Measured Daylight Factors” using an input function are described in the DOE-2 help.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Thanks,<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Bill<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Franklin Gothic Medium","sans-serif";color:black'>William Bishop, PE, BEMP, BEAP, LEED AP </span></b><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Franklin Gothic Medium","sans-serif";color:#006600'>|</span></b><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Franklin Gothic Medium","sans-serif";color:black'> Pathfinder Engineers & Architects LLP<o:p></o:p></span></b></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>Senior Energy Engineer<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:5.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>134 South Fitzhugh Street</span><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'> </span><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Rochester, NY 14608<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>T: (585) 325-6004 <span style='color:black'>Ext. 114</span></span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'> </span><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>F: (585) 325-6005<span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><a href="mailto:wbishop@pathfinder-ea.com"><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>bbishop@pathfinder-ea.com</span></a><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'> </span><a href="http://www.pathfinder-ea.com/"><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>www.pathfinder-ea.com</span></a><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:Webdings;color:green'>P</span><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:green'> </span><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:green'>Sustainability – the forest AND the trees.</span><span style='font-size:18.0pt;font-family:Webdings;color:green'> </span><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:Webdings;color:green'>P</span><span style='font-size:14.0pt;color:green'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'><hr size=2 width="100%" align=center></span></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:gray'>The contents of this email and any attachments to it contain confidential and/or legally privileged information from Zimmer Gunsul Frasca Architects LLP or its affiliates. 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