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    i don't recall the page in the leed 3 manual right off hand but 1) 
    tenant spaces can be modeled as proposed type (hvac/water/lighting)
    if there is a legally binding signed/or master lease agreement
    specifying the proposed requirements that all tenants must adhere to
    and said lease agreement is uploaded as part of the project
    documentation.  i.e. lower lighting lpd, increased hvac unit
    efficiencies/power, and water saving fixtures.  <br>
    <br>
    and 2)  there is an equest limit on the number of submeters a
    project can have, and a core/shell project requires submeters for
    each tenant to be separated out between process, lighting, and hvac,
    so the number of meters can add up quickly if you're dealing with a
    sizeable core/shell with many tenant spaces.<br>
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    On 8/1/13 1:36 PM, Anthony Hardman wrote:
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        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#00B0F0">See below<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="color:black">Anthony
                Hardman, </span></b><b><span
                style="font-size:10.0pt;color:black">PE, LEED AP
                BD&C</span></b><b><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
              style="font-size:10.0pt;color:black">Building Performance
              Analyst<o:p></o:p></span></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="color:#00B050">The Green
                Engineer, Inc.<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
              style="font-size:10.0pt;color:#00B050">Sustainable Design
              Consulting</span><span
              style="font-size:10.0pt;color:#00B050"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
              style="font-size:10.0pt;color:black">54 Junction Square
              Dr.</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
              style="font-size:10.0pt;color:black">Concord, MA 01742<o:p></o:p></span></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
              style="font-size:10.0pt;color:black">O: (978) 610-2801<o:p></o:p></span></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
              style="font-size:10.0pt;color:black">C: (720) 840-7862<o:p></o:p></span></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
              style="font-size:10.0pt;color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
              style="font-size:10.0pt;color:black">The Green Engineer,
              Inc. is a Certified B Corporation<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">
                Bishop, Bill [<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:bbishop@pathfinder-ea.com">mailto:bbishop@pathfinder-ea.com</a>] <br>
                <b>Sent:</b> Thursday, August 01, 2013 7:11 AM<br>
                <b>To:</b> eQUEST Users List<br>
                <b>Subject:</b> [Equest-users] LEED Core & Shell
                questions<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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        <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal">1. Should Tenant Spaces in LEED Core &
          Shell projects be modeled with Appendix G systems for the
          Baseline, and for the Proposed as well if there is no HVAC
          design?<o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal">-OR- Should Tenant Spaces be modeled as
          “unconditioned” in both the Baseline and Proposed? (-OR- some
          other option?)<o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#00B0F0">Finished tenant
            spaces should be modeled as designed with terminal units
            placed on the tenant meter.  If unfinished, it should follow
            Appendix G.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal">2. What is the intent/purpose of the
          requirement to model separate electric meters for lighting,
          plug loads and process loads in the Tenant Spaces? Should the
          cost from these meters be removed from the building energy
          cost for EAc1 savings?<o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#00B0F0">Download the </span><span
            style="color:#1F497D"><a moz-do-not-send="true"
              href="http://www.usgbc.org/resources/cs-v20-eac1-spreadsheet">spreadsheet</a></span><span
            style="color:#00B0F0">, it should answer your questions.</span><span
            style="color:#1F497D"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal">3. IF HVAC systems are modeled in the
          Tenant Spaces, should this energy be assigned to separate
          meters as well?<o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.usgbc.org/resources/appendix-2-core-and-shell-energy-modeling-guidelines">LEED
            Core & Shell Appendix 2</a> describes how the HVAC
          systems should be modeled for the Core and Shell Building, but
          not for the Tenant Spaces. Appendix 2 also describes the
          requirement for modeling separate meters.<o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal">Thank you,<o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal">Bill <o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
              style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Franklin Gothic
              Medium","sans-serif";color:black">William
              Bishop, PE, BEMP, BEAP, LEED AP </span></b><b><span
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