<div dir="ltr">Hi Nick & Patrick---I've checked the csv file and it is correct as you both have explained it. The csv file feeds the eQuest reports (not the .sim output file) & the csv file only picks up on the initial utility meters (i.e. EM1/FM1) and therefore the additional energy use/meters are not included or reported to the eQuest output reports (which I refer to as the Rainbow reports for utility usage and demand.)<div>
<br></div><div>Therefore based on this finding/confirmation---it is imperative that I feed my client results directly from the DOE-2 .sim file output reports (ie BEPU/BEPS; PS-E) reports to offer the correct energy model output results. At this level of the model file when there are additional meter or energy production/consumption the standard eQuest output results reports/graphs do not translate the actual model results.</div>
<div><br></div><div>Thanks so much guys for your insight & assistance!!</div><div><br></div><div>Pasha</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 10:51 AM, Nick Caton <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:ncaton@smithboucher.com" target="_blank">ncaton@smithboucher.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Thanks Patrick, that falls in line with my recollections as well (I’m working from fuzzy memory!). Perhaps my suggestion is more accurately put that the CSV
results file does not pick up on additional meters or energy generation, as may be occurring…<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Pasha, since this is fresh and in front of you, would you mind quickly checking/testing if this is the case for us all?<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Thanks!<u></u><u></u></span></p><div class="im">
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<b>Sent:</b> Monday, July 15, 2013 11:47 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Nick Caton<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Pasha Korber-Gonzalez; eQUEST Users List<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Equest-users] results discrepancy between Rainbow report & DOE-2 BEPU report<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">the 'rainbow' reports actually pull their data from a separate csv format file named "project name - baseline design_EG_MoEU_ED.csv", not from the .sim file.<br>
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you could, in theory, edit the .csv file to make the numbers match. i haven't tried doing so but since it is only a csv file you'd have to change it every time you run the simulation.<br>
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On 7/15/13 9:21 AM, Nick Caton wrote: <u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">I *believe* the “rainbow” graphical reports are specific to
<u>only</u> the EM1/FM1 default meters, and if you have included anything else in the way of sub-meters or separate utility rate metering that may not show up in these numbers (but will in the BEPU and other SIM reports).
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">For this reason, as a matter of course I have moved away from using the graphical reports and opt to use the PSE reports instead when assembling enduse consumption/demand
documentation for LEED and similar levels of scrutiny – just to avoid such potential trip-ups. The graphical reports are still great and useful, but it’s good to be aware of what they might not be showing!</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">~Nick</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#2d4d5e">25501 west valley parkway, suite 200</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">
<a href="mailto:equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org" target="_blank">equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org</a> [<a href="mailto:equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org" target="_blank">mailto:equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Pasha Korber-Gonzalez<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, July 15, 2013 10:33 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> eQUEST Users List<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Equest-users] results discrepancy between Rainbow report & DOE-2 BEPU report</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Hi fellow modelers; I've run into something funny this past couple days. On a couple of my simulations I've noticed that the results numbers in the eQuest Rainbow report are slightly higher (approx 10%) than the output results in my
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