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so if you manually change the .csv file to match the .sim file, do
the rainbow reports reflect the data properly?<br>
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On 7/15/13 11:51 PM, Pasha Korber-Gonzalez wrote:
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<div dir="ltr">Hi Nick & Patrick---I've checked the csv file
and it is correct as you both have explained it. The csv file
feeds the eQuest reports (not the .sim output file) & the
csv file only picks up on the initial utility meters (i.e.
EM1/FM1) and therefore the additional energy use/meters are not
included or reported to the eQuest output reports (which I refer
to as the Rainbow reports for utility usage and demand.)
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<div>Therefore based on this finding/confirmation---it is
imperative that I feed my client results directly from the
DOE-2 .sim file output reports (ie BEPU/BEPS; PS-E) reports to
offer the correct energy model output results. At this level
of the model file when there are additional meter or energy
production/consumption the standard eQuest output results
reports/graphs do not translate the actual model results.</div>
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<div>Thanks so much guys for your insight & assistance!!</div>
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<div>Pasha</div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 10:51 AM, Nick
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Thanks
Patrick, that falls in line with my recollections as
well (I’m working from fuzzy memory!). Perhaps my
suggestion is more accurately put that the CSV
results file does not pick up on additional meters
or energy generation, as may be occurring…</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Pasha,
since this is fresh and in front of you, would you
mind quickly checking/testing if this is the case
for us all?</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Thanks!</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">~Nick</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
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CATON, P.E.</span></b></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext">
Patrick J. O'Leary, Jr. [mailto:<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
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target="_blank">poleary1969@gmail.com</a>]
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<b>Sent:</b> Monday, July 15, 2013 11:47 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Nick Caton<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Pasha Korber-Gonzalez; eQUEST Users
List<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Equest-users] results
discrepancy between Rainbow report & DOE-2
BEPU report</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">the 'rainbow' reports actually
pull their data from a separate csv format file
named "project name - baseline
design_EG_MoEU_ED.csv", not from the .sim file.<br>
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you could, in theory, edit the .csv file to make
the numbers match. i haven't tried doing so but
since it is only a csv file you'd have to change
it every time you run the simulation.<br>
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On 7/15/13 9:21 AM, Nick Caton wrote: </p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">I
*believe* the “rainbow” graphical reports are
specific to
<u>only</u> the EM1/FM1 default meters, and if
you have included anything else in the way of
sub-meters or separate utility rate metering
that may not show up in these numbers (but will
in the BEPU and other SIM reports).
</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">For
this reason, as a matter of course I have moved
away from using the graphical reports and opt to
use the PSE reports instead when assembling
enduse consumption/demand documentation for LEED
and similar levels of scrutiny – just to avoid
such potential trip-ups. The graphical reports
are still great and useful, but it’s good to be
aware of what they might not be showing!</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">~Nick</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>NICK CATON, P.E.</b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#cc9900">SENIOR
ENGINEER</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#cc9900"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#2d4d5e">Smith
& Boucher Engineers</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#2d4d5e">25501
west valley parkway, suite 200</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#2d4d5e">olathe,
ks 66061</span></p>
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<a moz-do-not-send="true"
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target="_blank">913.344.0036</a></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Pasha Korber-Gonzalez<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, July 15, 2013 10:33 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> eQUEST Users List<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Equest-users] results
discrepancy between Rainbow report & DOE-2
BEPU report</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Hi fellow modelers; I've
run into something funny this past couple days.
On a couple of my simulations I've noticed that
the results numbers in the eQuest Rainbow report
are slightly higher (approx 10%) than the output
results in my DOE-2 BEPU report.</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I've never observed this
happening before--has anyone else?</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Any thoughts and comments
are welcomed!</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Thanks,</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Pasha</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Korber Energy Consultants</p>
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