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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">I sense 2 questions are being asked simultaneously, but only 1 has been answered…<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Baseline zoning should match the proposed design<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Baseline VAV/FPVAV systems should have one terminal unit per zone (matching proposed). All baseline VAV/FPVAV terminals on a given floor are served
by a single central air handling unit, in your case with chilled water coils served by 1 or more baseline chillers. These elements together make up the “system per floor.” In this way, you get one set of baseline supply/return fans to calculate per floor.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Put another way: Baseline VAV systems are not intended to be modeled as a series of single zone systems, but rather as one air handling unit per floor
serving one terminal unit per zone.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">I might suggest considering the baseline FPVAV boxes as analogous to a VRV system’s cassettes: each cover the same area (zone) and use the same thermostat,
but each is merely one component of a larger system. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Hope this helps,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org [mailto:equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Utku Simitli<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, May 30, 2013 9:03 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> 'Sambhav Tiwari'; 'equest-users'<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Equest-users] Baseline zoning<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="TR" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Hi Sambhav,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="TR" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">I think your baseline system corresponds to system 8, so as you can see from ASHRAE 90.1-2007 G3.1.1, you should consider your baseline system as
system per floor.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="TR" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">
<a href="mailto:equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org">equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org</a> [<a href="mailto:equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org">mailto:equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Sambhav Tiwari<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, May 30, 2013 12:33 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> equest-users<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Equest-users] Baseline zoning<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="TR">Hi All,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="TR"> I have VRV system which i will model as PVVVT system per zone in proposed case. my baseline is chiller with PFP VAV should i model my basline VAV system as system per zone like in proposed case VRV or i should
consider it as system per floor.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="TR">Regards<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="TR">Sambhav<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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