<html><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:times new roman, new york, times, serif;font-size:10pt"><div><span>Howdy Everyone,</span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13.600000381469727px; font-family: 'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><span><br></span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13.600000381469727px; font-family: 'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><span>I removed the Simulation file as it was too large to</span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13.600000381469727px; font-family: 'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><span>automatically be posted to the community.</span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13.600000381469727px; font-family: 'times new roman', 'new york', times,
serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;">This e-mail has just the .inp and .pd2 files.</div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13.600000381469727px; font-family: 'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><br></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13.600000381469727px; font-family: 'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;">Thanks & Best Wishes!</div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13.600000381469727px; font-family: 'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;">Mark</div><div><br></div> <div style="font-family: 'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif; font-size: 10pt;"> <div style="font-family: 'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div dir="ltr"> ----- Forwarded Message -----<br> <font size="2" face="Arial">
<b><span style="font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> Mark Rasmussen <markfrazz@yahoo.com><br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> Brian Fountain <bfountain@greensim.com> <br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Cc:</span></b> "equest-users@lists.onebuilding.org" <equest-users@lists.onebuilding.org> <br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Tuesday, May 21, 2013 1:53 PM<br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [Equest-users] Inquiry Regarding No Energy Usage for Ventilation Outdoor Air<br> </font> </div> <div class="y_msg_container"><br><div id="yiv7830328669"><div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); font-family: 'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif; font-size: 10pt;"><div><span>Howdy Brian,</span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13.600000381469727px; font-family: 'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif; background-color:
transparent; font-style: normal;"><span><br></span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13.600000381469727px; font-family: 'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><span>Thank you for your reply, it is greatly appreciated.</span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13.600000381469727px; font-family: 'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><span style="background-color:transparent;">Please find the requested files attached, plus </span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13.600000381469727px; font-family: 'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><span style="background-color:transparent;">the current Simulation file, which may be of use. </span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13.600000381469727px; font-family: 'times new
roman', 'new york', times, serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><span style="background-color:transparent;">Any good help </span><span style="background-color:transparent;">could really save the day!</span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13.600000381469727px; font-family: 'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><span style="background-color:transparent;"><br></span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13.600000381469727px; font-family: 'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><span style="background-color:transparent;">Thanks & Best Wishes!</span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13.600000381469727px; font-family: 'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><span
style="background-color:transparent;">Mark</span></div><div><br></div> <div style="font-family: 'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif; font-size: 10pt;"> <div style="font-family: 'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div dir="ltr"> <hr size="1"> <font size="2" face="Arial"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> Brian Fountain <bfountain@greensim.com><br> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">To:</span></b> 'Mark Rasmussen' <markfrazz@yahoo.com> <br> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Sent:</span></b> Tuesday, May 21, 2013 1:25 PM<br> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Subject:</span></b> RE: [Equest-users] Inquiry Regarding
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--></style><div><div class="yiv7830328669WordSection1"><div class="yiv7830328669MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Perhaps it would be best if you shared your .inp and .pd2 as this is clearly an issue with the specific model.</span></div><div class="yiv7830328669MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"> </span></div><div><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in;"><div class="yiv7830328669MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif;">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif;"> equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org [mailto:equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Mark Rasmussen<br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, May 21, 2013 2:11 PM<br><b>To:</b> Daniel Knapp<br><b>Cc:</b>
equest-users@lists.onebuilding.org<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Equest-users] Inquiry Regarding No Energy Usage for Ventilation Outdoor Air</span></div></div></div><div class="yiv7830328669MsoNormal"> </div><div><div><div class="yiv7830328669MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:black;">Howdy Daniel,</span></div></div><div><div class="yiv7830328669MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:black;"> </span></div></div><div><div class="yiv7830328669MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:black;">Thank you for the reply, it is very appreciated.</span></div></div><div><div class="yiv7830328669MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:black;"> </span></div></div><div><div class="yiv7830328669MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:black;">Yes, we know that the ventilation load doesn't show up in any of the</span></div></div><div><div class="yiv7830328669MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;color:black;">standard eQuest reports (such as LS-C Building Peak Load Components)</span></div></div><div><div class="yiv7830328669MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:black;">because they don't show up in the DOE-2.2 engine reports either, which </span></div></div><div><div class="yiv7830328669MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:black;">are the source of the eQuest reports.</span></div></div><div><div class="yiv7830328669MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:black;"> </span></div></div><div><div class="yiv7830328669MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:black;">However, our question pertains to the end use Natural Gas Consumption which only </span></div></div><div><div class="yiv7830328669MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:black;">shows Natural Gas Usage due to losses from Conduction (we verified this by </span></div></div><div><div
class="yiv7830328669MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:black;">manual calculation). The Natural Gas Usage projected by the energy model</span></div></div><div><div class="yiv7830328669MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:black;">does not include any Natural Gas Usage from the ventilation air (with outdoor air).</span></div></div><div><div class="yiv7830328669MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:black;"> </span></div></div><div><div class="yiv7830328669MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:black;">Any idea what programming issue could prevent the end use Natural Gas Usage</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:black;"></span></div></div><div><div class="yiv7830328669MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:black;">from Ventilation with Outdoor Air from being included in the end use analysis?</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:black;"></span></div></div><div><div
class="yiv7830328669MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:black;">I have been trying for a long time, and can't locate the issue. The problem is </span></div></div><div><div class="yiv7830328669MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:black;">causing an issue with our project timeline now, so I need to get this issue solved</span></div></div><div><div class="yiv7830328669MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:black;">very soon.</span></div></div><div><div class="yiv7830328669MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:black;"> </span></div></div><div><div class="yiv7830328669MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:black;">Thanks & Best Wishes!</span></div></div><div><div class="yiv7830328669MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:black;">Mark</span></div></div><div><div class="yiv7830328669MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:black;">
</span></div></div><div><div><div><div class="yiv7830328669MsoNormal" align="center" style="text-align:center;background:white;"><span style="color:black;"><hr size="1" width="100%" align="center"></span></div><div class="yiv7830328669MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: black;">From:</span></b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: black;"> Daniel Knapp <danielk@arborus.ca><br><b>To:</b> Mark Rasmussen <markfrazz@yahoo.com> <br><b>Cc:</b> "equest-users@lists.onebuilding.org" <equest-users@lists.onebuilding.org> <br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, May 21, 2013 12:56 PM<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Equest-users] Inquiry Regarding No Energy Usage for Ventilation Outdoor Air</span><span style="color:black;"></span></div></div><div><div class="yiv7830328669MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt;background:white;"><span style="color:black;"><br>Hi
Mark,<br><br>The loads report which shows the conduction losses does not include loads from the HVAC systems. The ventilation load doesn't show up in any of the standard eQuest reports. This is because eQuest is based on DOE-2.2 which runs in sequence every hour as LOADS -> HVAC -> ECON. LOADS calculates the loads on every space in the building according to a constant indoor space temperature and the outdoor weather conditions and then passes this information to HVAC which uses it to calculate the required response from the systems. The load reporting comes out of LOADS before HVAC does its work. I recommend digging into the DOE-2.2 documentation for more information.<br><br>There is probably a way to separate out the ventilation load in the hourly reporting functions. It's something I'm looking into but haven't figured out yet. Let me know if you find an easy way to do this. <br><br>All the
best,<br>Dan<br><br><br>—<br>Daniel Knapp, PhD, P Phys, LEED® AP O+M<br><a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:danielk@arborus.ca" target="_blank" href="mailto:danielk@arborus.ca">danielk@arborus.ca</a><br><br>Arborus Consulting<br>Energy Strategies for the Built Environment<br>www.arborus.ca<br>76 Chamberlain Avenue <br>Ottawa, ON, K1S 1V9 <br>Phone: (613) 234-7178 ext. 113<br>Fax: (613) 234-0740<br><br><br><br><br>On 2013-05-21, at 1:13 PM, Mark Rasmussen <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:markfrazz@yahoo.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:markfrazz@yahoo.com">markfrazz@yahoo.com</a>> wrote:<br><br>> To Whom May Be So Kind,<br>> <br>> We are currently creating an Energy Model using eQuest for LEED NC v2.2 <br>> for a facility that will consist of restaurants and a bar/lounge. According to <br>> LEED NC v2.2, we need to use a Packaged Single Zone (PSZ-AC)<br>> system for the baseline case energy model.<br>> <br>> Currently,
the energy model results for Space Heating only show usage resulting<br>> from Conduction Losses and not from Ventilation using Outdoor Air. This is confusing <br>> to us, since the SV-A Report in the DOE-2 Engine reports shows Outdoor Air in the <br>> system results.<br>> <br>> Any help to guide us on why the energy usage from Ventilation using Outdoor Air <br>> is not showing up in the results / end usage analysis in our energy model would be <br>> very appreciated.<br>> <br>> Thanks & Best Wishes!<br>> Mark<br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> _______________________________________________<br>> Equest-users mailing list<br>> <a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://lists.onebuilding.org/listinfo.cgi/equest-users-onebuilding.org">http://lists.onebuilding.org/listinfo.cgi/equest-users-onebuilding.org</a><br>> To
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