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<p class="MsoNormal">Thanks Byron,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">I actually never thought we have the option of not modeling the unconditioned basements. I know what you’re saying makes sense logically, but I am modeling the building for LEED, and I’m not sure the USGBC would like the fact that I’m not
modeling 2 full basement levels.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Assuming I have to, do you agree with the attached drawing (dividing into 3 shells)?<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">Thanks,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">Omar <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="color:navy">Omar Katanani</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif""><br>
</span><span lang="EN-GB" style="color:navy">Senior Sustainability Engineer</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif""><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";
color:windowtext">From:</span></b><span style="font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";
color:windowtext"> Byron Burns [mailto:B.Burns@ha-inc.com]
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<b>Sent:</b> 13 May 2013 19:21<br>
<b>To:</b> Omar Katanani; equest-users@lists.onebuilding.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [Equest-users] Modeling 2 interconnected buildings<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D">Hello Omar,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D">I would first define the thermal boundary of the conditioned spaces. I assume the parking area is not conditioned so the only the two above grade buildings
(possibly the library according to your project boundary) need to be modeled. The lighting and exhaust fan energy for the parking structure can be accounted for as an external process load attached to the meters.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D">Hope that helps,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D"><br>
</span><b><span style="color:#1F497D">Byron Burns</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";
color:windowtext">From:</span></b><span style="font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";
color:windowtext"> equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org [mailto:equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Omar Katanani<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, May 13, 2013 11:55 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> equest-users@lists.onebuilding.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Equest-users] Modeling 2 interconnected buildings<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Dear All,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">I want to start modeling a school project comprising of 2 buildings interconnected by:<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoListParagraph" style="text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo2"><![if !supportLists]><span style="mso-list:Ignore">1.<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span><![endif]><span dir="LTR"></span>A car parking on 2 basement levels, and
<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoListParagraph" style="text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo2"><![if !supportLists]><span style="mso-list:Ignore">2.<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span><![endif]><span dir="LTR"></span>a library space at the Ground & First Floor levels<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">I have attached a 3D rendering of the project and highlighted the 2 buildings (building 1 & building 2 in
<b>red</b> and <b>green</b>) and the library separating them (in <b>blue</b> color). The underground basement is not shown in this image but will span the whole footprint below the 2 buildings.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">I want to start by modeling these buildings via the wizard. I guess I will need to create separate shells and position them properly, right?<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">If this is the case, is the best scenario to model 3 shells as follows?<o:p></o:p></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span dir="LTR"></span>1 for Bldg#1, <o:p></o:p></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span dir="LTR"></span>1 for the library, and <o:p>
</o:p></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span dir="LTR"></span>1 for Bldg#2 <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">As for the basement, is it better to model it as 1 big shell and place the 3 shells (listed above) just over the basement shell? Or it is better to divide the basement into 3 sections and merge each section with the above-ground shell (listed
above)?<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">I hope I explained it clearly :)<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">Thanks,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">Omar <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="color:navy">Omar Katanani</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif""><br>
</span><span lang="EN-GB" style="color:navy">Senior Sustainability Engineer</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif""><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="color:navy">Email: <a href="mailto:omar@ecoconsulting.net">
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