<div style="line-height:1.7;color:#000000;font-size:14px;font-family:arial">Dear Nick,<div>Thanks for your patient instruction!</div><div>I now know how to set the COP of a chiller. But I also have two quesions:</div><div>1 where to find the meaning of these parameters of the curve? Are them in the DOE help?</div><div><span style="line-height: 1.7;">2 How to verify that the COP is set as constant from the simulation output file of eQuest?</span></div><div><span style="line-height: 1.7;">Thanks!</span></div><div>Esmi</div><div><br><br><br><br><div></div><div id="divNeteaseMailCard"></div><br>At 2013-04-18 08:34:50,"Nick Caton" <ncaton@smithboucher.com> wrote:<br> <blockquote id="isReplyContent" style="PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid">
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#002060">Absolutely, and thanks for correcting me guys!
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#002060">All: Apologies for just throwing the concept out there without thinking it through totally. Here¡¯s a fresh shot at the procedure with a more complete explanation,
to make amends and reinforce the lesson for myself. I¡¯m wide open for corrections if I¡¯ve missed something =):<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#002060">The typical function for determining a chiller¡¯s hourly energy consumption is:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;letter-spacing:-.25pt">Elec<sub>hour</sub> = Cap<sub>hour</sub> * EIR * EIRf(t1,t2) * EIRf(PLR,dT) / 3413 Btu/Kw<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#002060">Erik¡¯s direction, setting only the ¡®b¡¯ coefficient to 1.0 and the rest to zero, turns
</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#002060;letter-spacing:-.25pt">EIRf(PLR,dT)
</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#002060">into a linear curve that will very simply return the PLR. This reduces the formula to:</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;letter-spacing:-.25pt">Elec<sub>hour</sub> = Cap<sub>hour</sub> * EIR * EIRf(t1,t2) * PLR / 3413 Btu/kW<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;letter-spacing:-.25pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#002060;letter-spacing:-.25pt">Following my original direction for coefficients, setting only ¡®a¡¯ to 1.0 and the rest to zero, will turn EIRf(t1,t2) into a curve that
will always return 1.0. This reduces the formula to:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;letter-spacing:-.25pt">Elec<sub>hour</sub> = Cap<sub>hour</sub> * EIR * 1.0 * PLR / 3413 Btu/kW<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#002060">By their respective definitions in this context (see DOE2 entry below), (</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#002060;letter-spacing:-.25pt">Cap<sub>hour</sub>
* PLR)</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#002060"> equals the Hourly Load, in Btuh. The formula is therefore reduced to:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;letter-spacing:-.25pt">Elec<sub>hour</sub> = ¡°The Hourly Load (Btuh)¡± * EIR * / 3413 Btu/kW</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#002060">So now we are finally utilizing the input EIR every hour, as intended! Interesting to note, one need not even touch the CAPf(t1,t2) curve as its effects are
canceled out along the way.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#002060">PS: ¡If all this is looking foreign, here¡¯s the DOE2 help entry I¡¯m starting from:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Joe Huang<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, April 17, 2013 6:56 PM<br>
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<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Equest-users] How to set the COP of a chiller as constant in eQuest?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Erik,<br>
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You're right. It should be a straight diagonal line from 0,0 to 1,1. <br>
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On 4/17/2013 3:43 PM, Erik Kolderup wrote: <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">One point of correction regarding curves to provide constant COP... I'm pretty sure you do not want the EIR-FPLR curve to be constant 1.0. The value of that curve is actually (normalized EIR)*(part load ratio). So if you want constant EIR,
then the curve should just equal PLR. That's a straight line between (0,0) and (1,1). So the "a" coefficient should be zero and the "b" coefficient should be 1.0. All other coefficients for that curve should be zero. <o:p></o:p></p>
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Date: Wed, 17 Apr 2013 19:40:31 +0000<br>
Subject: Re: [Equest-users] How to set the COP of a chiller as constant in eQuest?<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">After identifying the curves in play per Joe¡¯s suggestion, you could achieve a constant COP, independent
of part load or other variables, by making a set of custom curves (of appropriate/acceptable type) using coefficient inputs.
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Example from the library:</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">CentH2O-EIR-fPLR&dT looks like this from the library before modification. This curve works alongside
others to determine how to modify the input EIR for a chiller:</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><img border="0" width="645" height="349" id="_x0000_i1025" src="cid:6406eb60$3$13e3018609e$Coremail$e2fye2$163.com"><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">What we want is for this and all the other curves to return a value of 1.0, whatever the hourly variables
throw at it. Simply enter all coefficients preceding a variable (b,c,d,e,f) to 0. Set the coefficient for the curve¡¯s constant (a) at 1.0:</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Doing the same for all associated curves (again, read up in the help/documentation for your particular
equipment to be sure), at all hours the chiller in question will operate at the specified EIR without variance.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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