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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">I would agree with that.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">I would recommend informing your client that you can either do Option 1 of the USGBC DESv2.0 guidelines (i.e. plants modeled as neutral between baseline and
proposed via stipulated rates), or using the stipulated efficiencies for Option 2.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Otherwise, I would recommend informing your client that modeling the entire district system just to estimate the plant efficiencies (i.e. includes buildings
outside the scope of the current project), with the goal of getting more EAc1 points for the project, will result in you asking for additional fee because this is additional work on your part, potentially a lot of additional work. I think this is a very reasonable
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org [mailto:equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>David Griffin<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, April 16, 2013 3:21 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> 'Esmireta'; BLDGSIM; equest-users<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Equest-users] How the get the "estimated load profile"?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#17365D">Esmireta,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#17365D">It has been awhile since I modeled a central plant for a LEED project, so you’ll have to verify my comments.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#17365D">After applying a CHW meter and a Steam Meter to your CHW Loop and HW Loop respectively, a new Central Plant can be modeled in either of the following ways:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<![if !supportLists]><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#17365D"><span style="mso-list:Ignore">1)<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#17365D">Using efficiencies per section 2.4.1.2.3
<i>Default Efficiencies</i> and applying them to your meters, or<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#17365D">Using efficiencies per the design specifications and applying them to your meters.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#17365D">I don’t remember ever seeing a ‘process load’ that must be applied to the plant. I’m sure some else will chime in a correct me if I’m wrong. Have a great day!<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> Esmireta [<a href="mailto:e2fye2@163.com">mailto:e2fye2@163.com</a>]
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<b>Sent:</b> Monday, April 15, 2013 7:49 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> BLDGSIM; equest-users<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Equest-users] How the get the "estimated load profile"?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black">Dear all,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black">When simulating district cooling for LEED, a virtual plant is required to be added to the proposed building, according to the "Treatment of District or Campus Thermal
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black">The efficiency of the virtual plant is obtained through modeling if the district cooling system is new.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black">The "Treatment of District or Campus Thermal Energy in LEED V2 and LEED 2009 – Design & Construction" said, "Apply measured or estimated load profiles as “process
loads” to reflect the estimated total loads on the district energy plant".<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black">My question is:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black">What is the estimated load? If the district cooling system provides cold to any other buildings that are not in the LEED certificate scope, how can I get the estimated
load? <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black">Regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black">Esmi<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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