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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body bgcolor=white lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial Narrow","sans-serif";color:#0070C0'>You should be fine if you enter the value here:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial Narrow","sans-serif";color:#0070C0'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial Narrow","sans-serif";color:#0070C0;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><img width=760 height=674 id="Picture_x0020_3" src="cid:image003.png@01CE1597.B558BE20"></span><span style='font-family:"Arial Narrow","sans-serif";color:#0070C0'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial Narrow","sans-serif";color:#0070C0'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#DCAA2C;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></b></p><p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><b><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:gray;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Vikram Sami</span></b><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:gray;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>, LEED AP BD+C<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:gray;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Sustainable Design Analyst<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:gray;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>1315 Peachtree St. NE, Atlanta, GA 30309<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:gray;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>t: 404-443-7462 f: </span><span lang=ES style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:gray;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>404.892.5823 </span><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:gray;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'> e: vikram.sami@perkinswill.com </span><span style='color:#0070C0;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><a href="http://www.perkinswill.com/"><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:gray;text-decoration:none'>www.perkinswill.com</span></a></span><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:gray;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:3.0pt;text-autospace:none'><b><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:gray;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Perkins+Will.</span></b><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:gray;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'> </span><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#ADD425;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Ideas + buildings that honor the broader goals of society</span><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:green;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#0070C0;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial Narrow","sans-serif";color:#0070C0'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext;mso-fareast-language:KO'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext;mso-fareast-language:KO'> equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org [mailto:equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Annie Marston<br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, February 28, 2013 9:27 AM<br><b>To:</b> Jenny Zhang; 'Patrick J. O'Leary, Jr.'<br><b>Cc:</b> 'equest-users@lists.onebuilding.org'<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Equest-users] LEED EA comments about Model Area and the architecture GFA<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Hi Jenny,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>We have had this issue before as well, there is a box on EAp2 / EAc1 (sorry I never remember which until I am in the form) where you can tick to say your energy model has a different floor area from the architecture plans. This seems to work, you can then write a narrative in response to the comments explaining why. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>The second thing that LEED seem to look for is that the floor area is consistent across credits. I think that the tick box in EAp2 / EAc1 negates the need for that but it is worth checking with the other LEED credits to see if you can align with them.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>I don’t know how helpful that is but I thought it might be worth mentioning.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Good luck<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Annie<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:5.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:5.0pt;margin-left:0in'><b><span style='color:navy;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Dr. A. 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O'Leary, Jr.'<br><b>Cc:</b> 'equest-users@lists.onebuilding.org'<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Equest-users] LEED EA comments about Model Area and the architecture GFA<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='color:#1F497D'>Patrick,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='color:#1F497D'>Thanks very much for your quick reply.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='color:#1F497D'>It is a 4-floors retail podium and about 27 floors office tower. Also has a big basement, the total gross floor area is about 1121319 sqft. 40,000sf is a big value but a small percentage for my building.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='color:#1F497D'>No plenum zones in our models and I think the area discrepancy is because the outlines of our models’ footprint is not the same as the architecture drawings. I have done some simplifies when building the geometry.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='color:#1F497D'>I will check according to your reminders. It would be lucky if some outdoor areas is in architecture gross floor areas.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='color:#1F497D'>Do you know how small the difference could be accepted by the review team?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='color:#1F497D'>Regards<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='color:#1F497D'>Jie<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext'> Patrick J. O'Leary, Jr. [<a href="mailto:poleary1969@gmail.com">mailto:poleary1969@gmail.com</a>] <br><b>Sent:</b> 2013</span><span lang=ZH-CN style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Microsoft JhengHei","sans-serif";color:windowtext'>年</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext'>2</span><span lang=ZH-CN style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Microsoft JhengHei","sans-serif";color:windowtext'>月</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext'>28</span><span lang=ZH-CN style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Microsoft JhengHei","sans-serif";color:windowtext'>日</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext'> 20:59<br><b>To:</b> Jenny Zhang<br><b>Cc:</b> 'equest-users@lists.onebuilding.org'<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Equest-users] LEED EA comments about Model Area and the architecture GFA<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB>is your building single story or multiple story? 40,000 sf is a huge difference. two things i would check first are:<br><br>1. are parts of the building, in the architectural square footage, exterior? i.e the 1st floor plan sf the architect is using has canopy area, or is there a walkway under part(s) of the building if it is multistory?<br><br>where did the architect get the sf number they are using? and how does it impact calculations in other points?<br><br>2. does part of the building have plenums? plenum zones in the sv-a reports will show up in the area sf so if you have a vertical building & some floors have plenums while others don't this can skew the sf on the sv-a reports though not on the sf reported as the building/floor footprints. <br><br><br>On 2/28/13 5:40 AM, Jenny Zhang wrote: <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB>Dear All friends,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB>I got a LEED EA Cr1 review comment from GBCI. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB>It’s about the model area and architecture Gross square footage. The total building area in the simulation report is 1,121,319.6 square feet and the area in architecture documents is 1,161,727.32 square feet. The comments said that the area value in the model should be consistent with all other credits and LEED online and/or provide a supplemental narrative explaining the discrepancy.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB>As a energy modeller I think all of you know that the area in the model could not be easily consistent with the architecture CAD drawings. Although In the footprint drawing stage I was very care about each floor’ area(because I understand the area in the model should be consistent with CAD drawings especially when it was for a LEED model), it still results discrepancy in the two area values.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB>Now the difference about the two area values is about 40407.4 sqft (3754sqm), and it is only 3% of the total area. It’s hard to revise the model in this stage, but what I should do to explain the discrepancy. Does anybody here have experience to deal with this problem? And do you know how much difference (%) could be accepted by the review team?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB>Thanks for your attention.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB>Jie Zhang<o:p></o:p></span></p><p><span lang=EN-GB>____________________________________________________________<br>Electronic mail messages entering and leaving Arup business<br>systems are scanned for acceptability of content and viruses<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><pre><span lang=EN-GB>_______________________________________________<o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre><span lang=EN-GB>Equest-users mailing list<o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre><span lang=EN-GB><a href="http://lists.onebuilding.org/listinfo.cgi/equest-users-onebuilding.org">http://lists.onebuilding.org/listinfo.cgi/equest-users-onebuilding.org</a><o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre><span lang=EN-GB>To unsubscribe from this mailing list send a blank message to <a href="mailto:EQUEST-USERS-UNSUBSCRIBE@ONEBUILDING.ORG">EQUEST-USERS-UNSUBSCRIBE@ONEBUILDING.ORG</a><o:p></o:p></span></pre><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div></body></html>