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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>You may want to upload your .inp and .pd2 file. There are a lot
of people on the list with experience who may be able to help if you upload the
eQUEST files.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Also, make sure that the capacity inputs for the ice storage
tank are correct. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Esmireta
[mailto:e2fye2@163.com] <br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, November 06, 2012 11:49 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Matthew W. Higgins<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Otto Schwieterman; Jiao, Joey; Equest-users@lists.onebuilding.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re:Re: [Equest-users] Thermal Storage Control<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:black'>Hi Matthew,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:black'>Do you mean that if I would like to use the equipment control and
load management to set the charging and discharging schedule, I must set a
dummy coil in the charging loop?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:black'>My simulation does not work, so I set a dummy coil, it seems still
not working.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:black'>I'd like to have your opinion.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:black'>thanks<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>Es<br>
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color:black'><br>
At 2012-03-09
06:26:58,"Matthew W. Higgins" <MWHiggins@bpce.com>
wrote:<br>
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<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='color:#1F497D'>This is the methodology I typically use, but I have been playing
with the idea of separate charge and discharges loops, with an availability
schedule on the charge loop. The only caveat to this is the need for a dummy
coil to be placed on the charge loop, otherwise that loop won<span lang=ZH-CN>’</span>t
flow. I can<span lang=ZH-CN>’</span>t remember if I was happy with this
or not, but have predominantly used what Otto illustrated.</span><span
style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style='color:#1F497D'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='color:#1F497D'>Either way I would suggest verifying with <b><u>hourly
reports</u></b> and tweaking the FLAG schedule to make sure the hourly wiggles
the way you want it to.</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'> <a
href="mailto:equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org">equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org</a>
[mailto:<a href="mailto:equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org">equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Otto Schwieterman<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, March 08, 2012 2:45 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Jiao, Joey; <a href="mailto:Equest-users@lists.onebuilding.org">Equest-users@lists.onebuilding.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Equest-users] Thermal Storage Control</span><span
style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='color:#1F497D'>Joey,</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style='color:#1F497D'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='color:#1F497D'>When I model thermal storage, I typically set up
equipment controls to control when the Ice tank will be charging and
discharging. In the discharge sequence, if you set the chiller to sequence 2,
the ice storage tank will be discharged first. At the bottom of the equipment
controls screen, you can input the correct thermal storage information.</span><span
style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style='color:#1F497D'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='color:#1F497D'>After I create the equipment controls, I typically create
a load management for the cooling equipment which tells the equipment when to
charge and when to discharge. You will have to create a FLAG schedule for the
load management equipment control.</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='color:#1F497D'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='color:#1F497D'>If anyone has a better or more detailed technique of
modeling thermal storage please add to the conversation. </span><span
style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'> Jiao,
Joey [<a href="mailto:Joey.Jiao@WSPGroup.com.cn">mailto:Joey.Jiao@WSPGroup.com.cn</a>]
<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, March 08, 2012 6:04 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:Equest-users@lists.onebuilding.org">Equest-users@lists.onebuilding.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Equest-users] Thermal Storage Control</span><span
style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='color:black'>Hi, everyone :<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='color:black'>When I finished a thermal storage system, I found the
thermal Storage can<span lang=ZH-CN>’</span>t be control by <span
lang=ZH-CN>“</span>Equipment control<span lang=ZH-CN>”</span> list.
Like the illustration below, the list only content Chillers on the loops. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='color:black'>What I want is to make sure the Thermal Storage energy
should be used by control, at most of the cases it should be used first, but on
the warmest day , It should be used at 3~5PM to prevent the main chiller can<span
lang=ZH-CN>’</span>t deal with the cooling load.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='color:black'>Who can take some light on this ? Any suggestion should be
appreciated.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='color:black'>Thank you very much.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='color:black'>Joey.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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