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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Were you adding vertices?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Editing can change the "insertion point" of the space WRT the parent floor.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Michael Campbell [mailto:mike@sustainablesolutionscorporation.com] <br><b>Sent:</b> Friday, November 02, 2012 12:16 PM<br><b>To:</b> Byron Burns; ssavich@systemswestengineers.com; Bishop, Bill; equest-users@lists.onebuilding.org<br><b>Subject:</b> RE: [Equest-users] Adding/modifying zones in detailed mode<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>I tried changing the floor shape using this method and my zones ended up moving all over the place. Any ideas why this might be?</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:#17109C'>Mike Campbell E.I.T., LEED AP O+M<br>Sustainability Specialist </span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:#4F6228'>Sustainable Solutions Corporation</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#17109C'>Office: 610-569-1047 </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#17109C'><a href="http://www.sustainablesolutionscorporation.com/">www.SustainableSolutionsCorporation.com</a></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><i><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:#17109C'>Sustainable Solutions Corporation is WBENC and BCorp Certified.</span></i><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><i><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:#A6A6A6'>This email message and any attachments are for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply email and destroy all copies of the original message and any attachments.</span></i><o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Byron Burns [mailto:<a href="mailto:B.Burns@ha-inc.com">B.Burns@ha-inc.com</a>] <br><b>Sent:</b> Friday, November 02, 2012 2:17 PM<br><b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:ssavich@systemswestengineers.com">ssavich@systemswestengineers.com</a>; Bishop, Bill; Michael Campbell; <a href="mailto:equest-users@lists.onebuilding.org">equest-users@lists.onebuilding.org</a><br><b>Subject:</b> RE: [Equest-users] Adding/modifying zones in detailed mode</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Steven,</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>This is pretty cool, I have looked at that menu bar for months not knowing what it was used for. I have been trying to figure this out as well over the past few days. Glad to see you have a solution. </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Just playing around with my model I noticed that the create new (Floor, Space, and Zone) are grayed out. However, if you manually add the items in the Component tree then you can edit them using the method you describe below. </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>I take back most of the bad things I said about eQUEST.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><br></span><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Byron Burns</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> <a href="mailto:equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org">equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org</a> [<a href="mailto:equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org">mailto:equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Steven Savich<br><b>Sent:</b> Friday, November 02, 2012 1:44 PM<br><b>To:</b> 'Bishop, Bill'; 'Michael Campbell'; <a href="mailto:equest-users@lists.onebuilding.org">equest-users@lists.onebuilding.org</a><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Equest-users] Adding/modifying zones in detailed mode</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>If it's a question of modifying some space sizes, an easy way to do that in the interface is using the geometry editor tool. It's the similar to the utility that you use in the Wizard when you trace a CAD plan to develop custom floor plan & zoning geometry. You'll have to be in the building shell 2-D geometry tab. like so:</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><img border=0 width=409 height=282 id="_x0000_i1025" src="cid:image001.jpg@01CDB8FB.58AA24A0"></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Normal view.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Select the space you want to modify shape/size, then click the shape view mode button</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><img border=0 width=398 height=274 id="Picture_x0020_2" src="cid:image002.jpg@01CDB8FB.58AA24A0"></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>You can then edit a zone. In the screenshot, I haven't selected a space, so the building floor is highlighted. You can add/subtract vertices & move them around.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Steven</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> <a href="mailto:equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org">equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org</a> [<a href="mailto:equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org">mailto:equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Bishop, Bill<br><b>Sent:</b> Friday, November 02, 2012 10:32 AM<br><b>To:</b> Michael Campbell; <a href="mailto:equest-users@lists.onebuilding.org">equest-users@lists.onebuilding.org</a><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Equest-users] Adding/modifying zones in detailed mode</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Mike,</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>I prefer to avoid modifying space definitions once I get in DD edit mode. Maybe you can change interior walls to air walls, or modify interior loads, zone airflows etc. to approximate the design changes.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>If you still feel it necessary to make changes, this is what I would do:</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:.75in'><span style='color:#1F497D'>-</span><span style='font-size:7.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><span style='color:#1F497D'>Save-as the model to create a backup copy</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:.75in'><span style='color:#1F497D'>-</span><span style='font-size:7.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><span style='color:#1F497D'>Save-as again to create a third copy of the model</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:.75in'><span style='color:#1F497D'>-</span><span style='font-size:7.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><span style='color:#1F497D'>Go to wizard mode and make the zone definition changes/additions</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:.75in'><span style='color:#1F497D'>-</span><span style='font-size:7.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><span style='color:#1F497D'>Switch to DD Edit mode and save the model</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:.75in'><span style='color:#1F497D'>-</span><span style='font-size:7.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><span style='color:#1F497D'>You now have three models -the original model with all your DD edit changes, a backup of that model, and a new model with the correct zones but minus all the other work you did</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:1.25in'><span style='font-family:"Courier New";color:#1F497D'>o</span><span style='font-size:7.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><span style='color:#1F497D'>Working with a text editor and the input files of the original model and the new model, copy the new/modified spaces and zones from the new model to the original model.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:1.25in'><span style='font-family:"Courier New";color:#1F497D'>o</span><span style='font-size:7.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><span style='color:#1F497D'>Any new definitions that were created with the new spaces/zones will also have to be copied. This includes polygons, surfaces, zonal systems etc.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:1.25in'><span style='font-family:"Courier New";color:#1F497D'>o</span><span style='font-size:7.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><span style='color:#1F497D'>You might consider copying the entire sections in the input file for polygons and spaces to make it easier, but this will cause you to lose any DD edits you made to the spaces</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:1.25in'><span style='font-family:"Courier New";color:#1F497D'>o</span><span style='font-size:7.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><span style='color:#1F497D'>Likewise, you can copy the entire zones section of the input file, but you will lose your systems and zonal property changes that you made in DD edit mode.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:.75in'><span style='color:#1F497D'>-</span><span style='font-size:7.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><span style='color:#1F497D'>Once you finish copying from the new input file to the original one, save the original input file.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:.75in'><span style='color:#1F497D'>-</span><span style='font-size:7.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><span style='color:#1F497D'>Open the original model and don’t be too disappointed when you get errors.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:.75in'><span style='color:#1F497D'>-</span><span style='font-size:7.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><span style='color:#1F497D'>If you can’t correct all the errors, make a backup of your backup and start again with the input file exercise.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Regards,</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Bill</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><a href="mailto:wbishop@pathfinder-ea.com"><span style='text-decoration:none'><img border=0 width=480 height=114 id="Picture_x0020_1" src="cid:image003.jpg@01CDB8FB.58AA24A0" alt="Senior Energy Engineer 28Jun2012"></span></a><o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> <a href="mailto:equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org">equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org</a> [<a href="mailto:equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org">mailto:equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Michael Campbell<br><b>Sent:</b> Friday, November 02, 2012 11:36 AM<br><b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:equest-users@lists.onebuilding.org">equest-users@lists.onebuilding.org</a><br><b>Subject:</b> [Equest-users] Adding/modifying zones in detailed mode</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Hello,<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>I’ve done a significant amount of work in the Detailed Data Edit mode and there was recently a design change with some space modifications. How can I modify and add zones in detailed mode?<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Thanks,<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:#17109C'>Mike Campbell E.I.T., LEED AP O+M<br>Sustainability Specialist </span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:#4F6228'>Sustainable Solutions Corporation</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#17109C'>Office: 610-569-1047 </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#17109C'><a href="http://www.sustainablesolutionscorporation.com/">www.SustainableSolutionsCorporation.com</a></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><i><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:#17109C'>Sustainable Solutions Corporation is WBENC and BCorp Certified.</span></i><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><i><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:#A6A6A6'>This email message and any attachments are for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. 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