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 lighting and plug loads, the percentage improvement from envelope improvements will be less.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Also the LV report that gives you the design load on the space doesn’t include the “system” and ventilation loads, so if your building has a lot of outside
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org [mailto:equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Lee Chorney<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, August 22, 2012 11:48 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> equest-users@lists.onebuilding.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Equest-users] Huge envelope changes having small affect on energy savings<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Hi All,<br>
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I recently did a model where I had the same system in both base and proposed but I changed the R-Value from 4 (base) to 20 (proposed). I also changed the window U-value from .80 (base) to .35 (proposed). After I did the run, I saw only a 5% savings between
 the heating and cooling use in the model. When I looked at the loads I saw the base had twice as much cooling and heating load than the proposed. Does any know why the energy savings would only be 5% when you have a huge difference between the cooling and
 heating loads?<br>
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Thanks,<br>
<br>
Lee<o:p></o:p></p>
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