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--></style></head><body lang="EN-US" link="blue" vlink="purple"><div class="WordSection1"><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Thanks for the help, Nick.  One question regarding the garage – the space is semi-heated with unit heaters and the floor that the garage is on also includes spaces that are conditioned.  Should I just increase the infiltration in the garage to account for the wall vents?</span></p>
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<div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Franklin Gothic Book";color:#17109c">Mike Campbell, EIT, LEED AP O+M<br>Sustainability Specialist</span></b><span style="font-family:"Franklin Gothic Book";color:#17109c"></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><i><span style="font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Garamond","serif";color:#17109c">This email message and any attachments are for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply email and destroy all copies of the original message and any attachments.</span></i></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> Nick Caton [mailto:<a href="mailto:ncaton@smithboucher.com">ncaton@smithboucher.com</a>] <br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, August 17, 2012 10:45 AM<br><b>To:</b> Karen Walkerman; Michael Campbell<br><b>Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:equest-users@lists.onebuilding.org">equest-users@lists.onebuilding.org</a><br><b>Subject:</b> RE: [Equest-users] LEED modeling garage</span></p>
</div></div><p class="MsoNormal"> </p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">I think Karen’s second sentence reads better if you tag “… as a direct load to the meter” to the end =).</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">To the second query, which dances with the “one system per space” rule of DOE2:  Something I’ve done in the past is split a space into two spaces thermally connected with an air wall (copy the space, halve the area/volume/internals, adjust & re-assign the interior partitions for the air wall), then assign the unit heater to one and the cooling system to the other.  Carefully review the temperature inputs to ensure the systems aren’t fighting each other.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">An easier <u>approximation</u> could be to simply include baseboard heating under the system in question.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">~Nick</span></p>
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<b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> <a href="mailto:equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org">equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org</a> <a href="mailto:[mailto:equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org]">[mailto:equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org]</a> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Karen Walkerman<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, August 16, 2012 7:35 PM<br><b>To:</b> Michael Campbell<br><b>Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:equest-users@lists.onebuilding.org">equest-users@lists.onebuilding.org</a><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Equest-users] LEED modeling garage</span></p>
</div><p class="MsoNormal"> </p><div><p class="MsoNormal">if the garage is completely open and unconditioned, then don't model the garage space at all.  Simply model the lighting, and any energy used by an exhaust fan for CO and NOx control.</p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal"> </p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">--</p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">Karen</p></div><p class="MsoNormal"> </p><div><p class="MsoNormal">On Thu, Aug 16, 2012 at 2:03 PM, Michael Campbell <<a href="mailto:mike@sustainablesolutionscorporation.com" target="_blank">mike@sustainablesolutionscorporation.com</a>> wrote:</p>
<div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style><span style="color:#1f497d">Hello, I just wanted to follow up on this and see if anyone has any information on how to model the garage grilles?  </span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style><span style="color:#1f497d"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style><span style="color:#1f497d">Also one other question – if a space has an AC unit plus and unit heater, how should that be modeled?</span></p><div><p class="MsoNormal" style><span style="color:#1f497d"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style><span style="color:#1f497d">Thank you</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style><span style="color:#1f497d"> </span></p><div><p class="MsoNormal" style><b><span style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Franklin Gothic Book";color:#17109c">Mike Campbell, EIT, LEED AP O+M<br>
Sustainability Specialist</span></b></p><p class="MsoNormal" style><span style="font-family:"Franklin Gothic Book";color:#17109c"><a href="tel:%28610%29%20569-1047" target="_blank">(610) 569-1047</a> office</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style><span style="font-family:"Franklin Gothic Book";color:#17109c"><a href="tel:%28610%29%20569-1040" target="_blank">(610) 569-1040</a> fax</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style><span style="font-family:"Franklin Gothic Book";color:#17109c"><a href="mailto:mike@sustainablesolutionscorporation.com" target="_blank">mike@sustainablesolutionscorporation.com</a></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style><span style="font-family:"Franklin Gothic Book";color:#17109c"><a href="http://www.sustainablesolutionscorporation.com/" target="_blank"><span style="color:#17109c">www.SustainableSolutionsCorporation.com</span></a></span></p>
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<span style="color:#1f497d"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style><b><i><span style="font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Garamond","serif";color:#17109c">This email message and any attachments are for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply email and destroy all copies of the original message and any attachments.</span></i></b></p>
</div><p class="MsoNormal" style><span style="color:#1f497d"> </span></p></div><div><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #b5c4df 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in"><p class="MsoNormal" style><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> Michael Campbell [mailto:<a href="mailto:mike@sustainablesolutionscorporation.com" target="_blank">mike@sustainablesolutionscorporation.com</a>] <br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, August 09, 2012 8:47 AM<br><b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:equest-users@lists.onebuilding.org" target="_blank">equest-users@lists.onebuilding.org</a><br><b>Subject:</b> LEED modeling garage</span></p></div>
</div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style> </p><p class="MsoNormal" style>Hello,</p><p class="MsoNormal" style> </p><p class="MsoNormal" style>I’m currently working on a model for a LEED project.  The parking garage is heated only with unit heaters and no cooling.  The garage is also ventilated naturally with aluminum grilles.  What is the correct way to model this for a LEED project?  Also, how do I take the grilles into account?  I currently have them in as windows, but I am not sure what do since they are essentially openings in the envelope.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style> </p><p class="MsoNormal" style>Thank you</p><p class="MsoNormal" style> </p><p class="MsoNormal" style><b><span style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Franklin Gothic Book";color:#17109c">Mike Campbell, EIT, LEED AP O+M<br>
Sustainability Specialist</span></b></p><p class="MsoNormal" style><span style="font-family:"Franklin Gothic Book";color:#17109c"><a href="tel:%28610%29%20569-1047" target="_blank">(610) 569-1047</a> office</span></p>
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