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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>To further clarify, if you look at the walls you highlighted as “missing” in Image 1 (when you select the smaller space), you will see that they appear in Image 2, meaning as Robby indicated, they are a child component of the larger space that surrounds the smaller space. You should be able to select them and verify that the NEXT-TO field is properly entered. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Also, I thought that the space that gets “possession” of an interior wall has something to do with the order that you draw them in the wizard, but it has been a long time since I cared to check on that. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-top:1.0pt'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#632423'>Nathan Miller, PE, LEED AP BD+C<o:p></o:p></span></b></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-top:4.0pt'><i><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'>Mechanical Engineer/Senior Energy Analyst<o:p></o:p></span></i></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-top:8.0pt;line-height:115%'><b><span style='font-size:8.0pt;line-height:115%;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#632423'>O </span></b><span style='font-size:8.0pt;line-height:115%;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'>206-285-7100</span><span style='font-size:8.0pt;line-height:115%;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#BFAB7F'> </span><span style='font-size:8.0pt;line-height:115%;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'>| </span><b><span style='font-size:8.0pt;line-height:115%;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#632423'>D</span></b><span style='font-size:8.0pt;line-height:115%;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#A50021'> </span><span style='font-size:8.0pt;line-height:115%;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'>206-788-4577</span><span style='font-size:8.0pt;line-height:115%;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#BFAB7F'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-top:3.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><a href="http://www.rushingco.com/"><b><i><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#632423'>www.rushingco.com</span></i></b></a><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org [mailto:equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Robby Oylear<br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, July 10, 2012 10:47 AM<br><b>To:</b> omoltay@mimtarch.com<br><b>Cc:</b> eQUEST Users List<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Equest-users] Internal Wall Problems with Wizard<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Regarding the comment about not trusting eQUEST's snaps, I find it helps to turn all snaps except "Polygon" off when defining zones. Thus the only way it's snapping is directly onto an existing vertex. I use this every time and don't have any issues with interior walls.<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Omer-<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>I believe what you're experiencing is that when defined properly, eQUEST only defines ONE interior wall. Since an interior wall is used to define a relationship between two spaces, there is only need for one wall. The zone that own's the wall is rather arbitrary, because either way they are linked through the NEXT-TO command. If two walls are created by eQUEST, it's likely that they'll both be ADIABATIC and this is a symptom of not defining the wall geometry correctly. One wall per zone interface is what you should be shooting for.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>-Robby<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 10:25 AM, Ömer Moltay <<a href="mailto:omoltay@mimtarch.com" target="_blank">omoltay@mimtarch.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Hi Robby,<br><br>Thanks a lot. Learned something very important today.<br><br>Another problem that I am having with internal walls: There are internal walls missing in some zones and I have no clue as to why. You will see these in the attached images as thin lines. The walls are missing from the selected zone (grayed), but the neighboring zone has walls in the same place.<br><br>In 01.jpg, all three internal walls of the smaller zone are missing.<br><br>In 02.jpg, some internal walls are missing and some are not.<br><br>This floor has been recreated according to your advice with additional vertices.<br><br>I think there is more to internal walls in Wizard that I do not know.<br><br>Best regards,<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><br><br>Ömer Moltay, LEED AP BD+C, ASHRAE BEMP, CPMP, BREEAM Assessor <br>Mimta EcoYapi<br>Hekimsuyu Cad. 559. Sk. <o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal>No:39 34255 Küçükköy İstanbul <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>Tel: 90-212-617-2296 <br>Fax: 90-212-617-2297 <br><a href="http://www.ekoyapi.net" target="_blank">www.ekoyapi.net</a> <br><a href="http://www.mimtasolar.com" target="_blank">www.mimtasolar.com</a> <br><a href="http://www.mimtarch.com" target="_blank">www.mimtarch.com</a> <o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal>10.07.2012 18:52 tarihinde, Robby Oylear yazdı:<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal>Omer, <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>The simplest way to ensure that eQUEST defines the NEXT-TO property correctly is to make sure that each interior wall only interfaces with one other interior wall. <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>In the situation you describe where you have an interior wall that is adjacent to more than one zone, I would typically split that interior wall into two or three walls by adding vertices at each of the intersections between the zones and the interior wall that spans them.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Here's a sketch of what I'm describing:<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><img border=0 width=348 height=271 id="_x0000_i1025" src="cid:image001.png@01CD5E8B.B10A9BE0" alt="Inline image 1"><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Hope that helps.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><a name="13871ed31833f08c__MailAutoSig">Robby Oylear, </a>PE, LEED AP<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><i><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'>Mechanical Engineer</span></i><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><i><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'>Senior Energy Analyst</span></i><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><i><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'> </span></i><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;line-height:115%'><b><span style='font-size:8.0pt;line-height:115%;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#632423'>D</span></b><span style='font-size:8.0pt;line-height:115%;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><span style='font-size:8.0pt;line-height:115%;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'><a href="tel:206-788-4571" target="_blank">206-788-4571</a></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;line-height:115%'><a href="http://www.rushingco.com/" target="_blank"><b><i><span style='font-size:8.0pt;line-height:115%;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#632423'>www.rushingco.com</span></i></b></a><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 8:45 AM, Ömer Moltay <<a href="mailto:omoltay@mimtarch.com" target="_blank">omoltay@mimtarch.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Dear All,<br><br>I have realized that while creating the model after Wizard entries, eQuest will fail to determine the NEXT-TO property for interior walls that are adjacent to more than one zone and all those interior walls will be defined as ADIABATIC.<br><br>Also, I see that interior walls are missing from zones where another zone has an ADIABATIC wall in the same place.<br><br>I see no way of having a model with all interior walls correctly defined without fixing all these problems after the Wizard. Does everybody have the same experience or am I missing something?<br><br>Ömer Moltay, LEED AP BD+C, ASHRAE BEMP, CPMP, BREEAM Assessor<br>Mimta EcoYapi<br>Hekimsuyu Cad. 559. Sk. 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