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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=719135215-15062012><FONT color=#0000ff
size=2 face=Arial>RE - The greyed out area - The system is a basic PSZ with gas
heat/DX cooling. Equest defaults to DX for this system type and so the
greyed out issue is sort of non-relevant I've found.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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size=2 face=Arial></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=719135215-15062012><FONT color=#0000ff
size=2 face=Arial>The other space indicating no cooling on the SSA report I
haven't figured out yet. I changed the space temperature settings and no
difference was made, when I went from 90 to 55. I've already reviewed the
SSO reports to do the same you suggested. I'll continue looking at a few
other items as well.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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size=2 face=Arial></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=719135215-15062012><FONT color=#0000ff
size=2 face=Arial>Thx</FONT></SPAN></DIV><BR>
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<FONT size=2 face=Tahoma><B>From:</B> Nick Caton
[mailto:ncaton@smithboucher.com] <BR><B>Sent:</B> Friday, June 15, 2012 10:51
AM<BR><B>To:</B> Eric Hethcoat;
equest-users@lists.onebuilding.org<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE: DX Cooling
Option<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Hi
Eric,<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Re-reading
your posts, I’m now uncertain I understand the context of your concerns… are you
getting unmet cooling hours, or if not how/where are you observing cooling “not
occuring?” When you say “if any cooling shows,” how/where are you making
that observation? <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">If
the heart of your concerns is the greyed-out “n/a” input for cooling option in
the detailed edit windows, you’ll find that input is only applicable to certain
system types on reading the associated help entry – this can be a non-concern if
conditioning is occurring. <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">One
means of confirming heating/cooling is occurring is to examine SS-O report
“space temperature summary,” keeping in mind a correctly operating system
without unmet hours should float around and between your heating/cooling
setpoints. In climates like ours (KS), if cooling is not occurring at all
you’ll probably observe a majority of hours above the 75-80 bin. A more
detailed means of observing space temperature behavior is to generate an hourly
report for the zone(s) in question.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Another
interpretation I have for your situation suggests pointing out you can define
more than one system type in the wizards, and assign to zones accordingly using
the zone allocation screens – you aren’t restricted to one system per shell or
anything.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Hope
something here hits the mark =)!<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> Eric Hethcoat
[mailto:EHethcoat@lsapa.com] <BR><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, June 14, 2012 7:44
PM<BR><B>To:</B> Nick Caton;
equest-users@lists.onebuilding.org<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE: DX Cooling
Option<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV></DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR: blue; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Checked
all schedules first. All are the same.</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR: blue; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Went
back into the Wizard. It was selected as furnace with no cooling.
Changed to furnace with DX as a PSZ. reran the file and again same
result. I presume that if any cooling shows, then it is indeed modeling it
- correctly? </SPAN><o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR: blue; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">The
space with no cooling is identical in all but physical size to the other spaces
that do have a cooling load associated to them in the simulation
output.</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR: blue; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><BR>Eric</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></P>
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style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">From:</SPAN></B><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> Nick Caton [<A
href="mailto:ncaton@smithboucher.com">mailto:ncaton@smithboucher.com</A>]
<BR><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, June 14, 2012 4:52 PM<BR><B>To:</B> Eric Hethcoat; <A
href="mailto:equest-users@lists.onebuilding.org">equest-users@lists.onebuilding.org</A><BR><B>Subject:</B>
RE: DX Cooling Option</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Hi
Eric,<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"><BR>First
thought is if you chose “no cooling” in the wizards, the wizards may have
assigned a system type (there are many) which cannot be assigned any cooling
function no matter what you do. You may need to review and re-assign the
system type as a result.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"><BR>If
this could be the case and you’re still gaining familiarity, it can be
instructive to save a ‘dummy’ copy of your project, then go back to wizards,
re-create the system you’re thinking of (with cooling), and observe what the
wizards generate as a result for edits in your ‘actual’
project.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">If
the system is correctly defined, an easy miss might be defining cooling
thermostat inputs (scheduling) for the zones to be
conditioned.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
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<B>On Behalf Of </B>Eric Hethcoat<BR><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, June 14, 2012 4:17
PM<BR><B>To:</B> <A
href="mailto:equest-users@lists.onebuilding.org">equest-users@lists.onebuilding.org</A><BR><B>Subject:</B>
[Equest-users] DX Cooling Option<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV></DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">I've got a baseline
and proposed model for a project set up. I've been thru every wizard mode
input, then changed several items in the detailed input mode. Successful
runs for both. </SPAN><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">The one thing that is
not showing up on only a single zone for one system between both models is
cooling. In the wizard mode - it is entered as "no cooling". I
understand this limits what systems can be chosen - in wizard
mode.</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">In the detailed mode
I've been thru every cooling tab to ensure all cooling properties are correctly
indicated as if we had DX - however under the air-side system tab, the
selection of chilled water or DX is not available - and is greyed out to
N/A. I've played with zone temps, schedules, etc. and none have any change
in the result for cooling in this area.</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">How can I ensure that
I have the proper cooling? I only have standard gas fired heating/DX
cooling PSZ equipment. No heat pump. </SPAN><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Eric Hethcoat,
P.E.</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
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