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<DIV><SPAN class=450090718-06062012><FONT color=#0000ff
face=Calibri>Matt,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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face=Calibri></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=450090718-06062012><FONT color=#0000ff face=Calibri>Before
looking into the Systems, I would suggest taking a closer look at the inputs on
the building shell and internal loads. </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=450090718-06062012><FONT color=#0000ff face=Calibri>For
example, you are using 0.025 w/sf as equipment/plug load for many of your
classroom </FONT></SPAN><SPAN class=450090718-06062012><FONT color=#0000ff
face=Calibri>spaces, which is too low. Depending on</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=450090718-06062012><FONT color=#0000ff face=Calibri>the type of
equipment (TV, Computers, Projection Eq., SmartBoards), the plug loads could
range between 0.25-0.5 w/sf for an </FONT></SPAN><SPAN
class=450090718-06062012><FONT color=#0000ff face=Calibri>elementary
school.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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face=Calibri></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=450090718-06062012><FONT color=#0000ff face=Calibri>Also, I
noticed your glazing types have U-value > 0.7.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<FONT size=2 face=Tahoma><B>From:</B> equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org
[mailto:equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org] <B>On Behalf Of </B>R
B<BR><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, June 05, 2012 4:11 PM<BR><B>To:</B> Matt
Clough<BR><B>Cc:</B> eQUEST Users List<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Equest-users]
LEED system 5<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
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<DIV>I ran the file you sent - it has heating consumption values, unmet hours is
just 200. Strange thing is that the % of hours should be 2.2% or so, instead it
is 8.2% - not sure why that is happening - may be the calc
procedures have changed for the % calcs?</DIV>
<DIV>-Rohini<BR><BR></DIV>
<DIV class=gmail_quote>On Tue, Jun 5, 2012 at 2:37 PM, Matt Clough <SPAN
dir=ltr><<A href="mailto:mclough@kme-inc.com"
target=_blank>mclough@kme-inc.com</A>></SPAN> wrote:<BR>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: rgb(31,73,125)">I have attached the
.pd2 and .inp for the baseline building. <U></U><U></U></SPAN></P>
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style="COLOR: rgb(31,73,125)"><U></U><U></U></SPAN> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: rgb(31,73,125)">I have changed the
reheat deltaT, but this has not decreased the unmet hours (which explains the
lack of energy used for heating)<U></U><U></U></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="COLOR: rgb(31,73,125)"><U></U><U></U></SPAN> </P><PRE><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: rgb(31,73,125)">I’m fiddling with </SPAN>HMAX-FLOW-RATIO <SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">at the suggestion from the archives, and may try increasing the boiler capacity incrementally.<U></U><U></U></SPAN></PRE><PRE><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">But I’m feeling pretty stuck on this one. Just have to keep reading.<U></U><U></U></SPAN></PRE><PRE><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'"><U></U> <U></U></SPAN></PRE><PRE><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">Thanks for the help<U></U><U></U></SPAN></PRE>
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style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> Sami, Vikram
[mailto:<A href="mailto:Vikram.Sami@perkinswill.com"
target=_blank>Vikram.Sami@perkinswill.com</A>] <BR><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, June
05, 2012 10:13 AM<BR><B>To:</B> Nick Caton; Howe, Timothy; Matt Clough; <A
href="mailto:equest-users@lists.onebuilding.org"
target=_blank>equest-users@lists.onebuilding.org</A><BR><B>Subject:</B> RE:
LEED system 5<U></U><U></U></SPAN></P></DIV></DIV>
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<P><U></U><SPAN style="COLOR: rgb(31,73,125)"><SPAN>1.<SPAN
style="FONT: 7pt 'Times New Roman'; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal">
</SPAN></SPAN></SPAN><U></U><SPAN style="COLOR: rgb(31,73,125)">Make sure your
systems are set to cycle on any<U></U><U></U></SPAN></P>
<P><U></U><SPAN style="COLOR: rgb(31,73,125)"><SPAN>2.<SPAN
style="FONT: 7pt 'Times New Roman'; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal">
</SPAN></SPAN></SPAN><U></U><SPAN style="COLOR: rgb(31,73,125)">Make sure you
have your reheat Delta T Set correctly. <U></U><U></U></SPAN></P>
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style="COLOR: rgb(31,73,125)"><U></U><U></U></SPAN> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: rgb(31,73,125)">This should take care
of the problem – otherwise its probably something more sinister.
<U></U><U></U></SPAN></P>
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style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> <A
href="mailto:equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org"
target=_blank>equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org</A> [mailto:<A
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Howe, Timothy; Matt Clough; <A
href="mailto:equest-users@lists.onebuilding.org"
target=_blank>equest-users@lists.onebuilding.org</A><BR><B>Subject:</B> Re:
[Equest-users] LEED system 5<U></U><U></U></SPAN></P></DIV></DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><U></U><U></U> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: rgb(31,73,125)">Unmet heating hours
will probably go away once you get your heating operational. I’d caution
against internally justifying/rationalizing one set of unmet hours with
another – keep in mind unmet hours are an indicator/symptom of a problem, not
a problem in and of themselves.<U></U><U></U></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="COLOR: rgb(31,73,125)"><U></U><U></U></SPAN> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: rgb(31,73,125)">For HW consumption,
open both models and review the DHW loop, schedules, process loads, and
equipment. Generally everything should be identical excepting HW heater
efficiency inputs.<U></U><U></U></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="COLOR: rgb(31,73,125)"><U></U><U></U></SPAN> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: rgb(31,73,125)">Reheat coils are set up
at the terminal units (zone inputs). Those relying on wizards can easily
miss some required edits to make reheat operate correctly – see attached
discussion from the [Bldg-sim] archives for a recap.<U></U><U></U></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="COLOR: rgb(31,73,125)"><U></U><U></U></SPAN> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="COLOR: rgb(31,73,125)">~Nick<U></U><U></U></SPAN></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><U></U><U></U> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal>Salutations!<U></U><U></U></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><U></U><U></U> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal>I just completed a LEED model, but after reviewing the data
results, I think something is wrong.<U></U><U></U></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><U></U><U></U> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal>The baseline building is showing no energy used for space
heating, heat rejection, and service water heating. I have the 2 boilers
modeled, per G3.1.3.2. This sort of makes sense because the model was
showing high unmet heating hours, while the proposed building had had unmet
cooling hours (successfully resolved). <U></U><U></U></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><U></U><U></U> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal>I set up the system 5 equipment (Packaged VAV with reheat)
in the wizard, but it doesn’t seem to show a heating component in the
DDE. I’m going to keep looking, but wanted to see if someone could point
me in the right direction.<U></U><U></U></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><U></U><U></U> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal>Regards,<U></U><U></U></P>
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