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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Arash,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>If the radiant heater does not have any fan associated with it, like a radiant ceiling panel, then I zero out the fan energy like Nick mentions. When the radiant heater has a combustion air fan, like a gas-fired radiant heater, then I enter fan data that matches the combustion air fan to capture that energy consumption.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>________________________________</span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Keith Swartz, P.E., LEED AP</span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><br>Energy Engineer / Senior Project Manager<br><b>Energy Center of Wisconsin</b><br>455 Science Drive, Suite 200, Madison, WI 53711<br>Phone: 608.238.8276 x123<br>Fax: 608.238.0523<br><br><b>The Buildings Team</b></span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><i><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Design decisions through energy, economics and emissions analysis.</span></i><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><a href="http://www.ecw.org/Buildings">www.ecw.org/Buildings</a> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:#1F497D'><br></span><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Energy Center University<br></span></b><i><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Your gateway to sustainable design training and online education programs.<br></span></i><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:#1F497D'><a href="http://www.ecw.org/university/" title="http://www.ecw.org/university/"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>www.ecw.org/university/</span></a></span><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Nick Caton [mailto:ncaton@smithboucher.com] <br><b>Sent:</b> Friday, May 25, 2012 10:30 AM<br><b>To:</b> Pasgar, Arash; equest-users@lists.onebuilding.org<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Equest-users] Gas INFRA-RED Radiant<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Hi Arash,<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>There are a couple right answers.  Here’s an approach I’ve used:<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:Symbol'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>        </span></span></span><![endif]>System type UHT<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:Symbol;color:#1F497D'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>        </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='color:#1F497D'>Zero out fan energy (0.00 kW/CFM), if there are no space circulation fans tied to your IR heater operation<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:Symbol;color:#1F497D'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>        </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='color:#1F497D'>eQuest doesn’t simulate the skin-heating comfort effects of radiant heat.  If you run into unmet heating hours, you can justifiably lower associated thermotat setpoints to account for this.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:Symbol;color:#1F497D'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>        </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='color:#1F497D'>DOE2 help files advise adjusting your HIR to 1.05 if products of combustion are not being vented out of the space (industrial applications).  <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>~Nick<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><img border=0 width=119 height=37 id="_x0000_i1025" src="cid:image001.jpg@01CD3A94.469827C0" alt="cid:489575314@22072009-0ABB"></span><b><span style='font-family:"Stylus BT","sans-serif";color:#2D4D5E'><o:p></o:p></span></b></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-family:"Stylus BT","sans-serif";color:#2D4D5E'><o:p> </o:p></span></b></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Stylus BT","sans-serif";color:#2D4D5E'>NICK CATON, P.E.<o:p></o:p></span></b></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:7.5pt;color:#CC9900'>SENIOR ENGINEER<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:7.5pt;color:#CC9900'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:#2D4D5E'>Smith & Boucher Engineers</span><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:#CC9900'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:#2D4D5E'>25501 west valley parkway, suite 200<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:#2D4D5E'>olathe, ks 66061<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:#2D4D5E'>direct 913.344.0036<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:#2D4D5E'>fax 913.345.0617<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><a href="www.smithboucher.com" title="blocked::www.smithboucher.com"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>www.smithboucher.com</span></a></span><u><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:blue'> </span></u><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> <a href="mailto:equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org">equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org</a> [<a href="mailto:equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org">mailto:equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Pasgar, Arash<br><b>Sent:</b> Friday, May 25, 2012 10:09 AM<br><b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:equest-users@lists.onebuilding.org">equest-users@lists.onebuilding.org</a><br><b>Subject:</b> [Equest-users] Gas INFRA-RED Radiant<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Hi all,<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>First of all sorry about the previous message.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>I have a storage using gas infra-red radiant heaters. Is there accurate way to model this.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Thank you in advance for your help.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#404040'>Arash Pasgar<br></span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#404040'>Mechanical Designer</span><span style='font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#404040'><br></span><span style='color:#404040'><br></span><span style='color:black'><img border=0 width=264 height=53 id="Picture_x0020_1" src="cid:image002.jpg@01CD3A94.469827C0" alt="Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: image001"></span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#404040'><br><br>v. 210.546.0200 | <a href="http://www.dbrinc.com">www.dbrinc.com</a></span><span style='color:#404040'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></body></html>