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    and maria is correct "<span
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      by space method does allow trade-offs between spaces, because it
      compares the total specified lighting wattage for the entire
      building to the <u>sum</u> of space-by-space allowances (see
      section 9.6.1 d)."  this is also noted in the user's manual in
      example 9-p.</span><br>
    <br>
    On 5/23/12 2:09 PM, Maria Karpman wrote:
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        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Patrick,
            <o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">I
            agree with Bill that it is irrelevant for energy modeler
            whether space-by-space or building area method was used to
            document compliance of the lighting design with the energy
            code (see his discussion on mandatory versus prescriptive
            requirements of 90.1). As a side note, when compliance with
            energy code is documented using prescriptive path (for
            example via ComCheck), exceeding LPD allowances for
            individual space types does not mean that project fails to
            comply using space-by-space method, as you seem to imply
            below. Space by space method does allow trade-offs between
            spaces, because it compares the total specified lighting
            wattage for the entire building to the <u>sum</u> of
            space-by-space allowances (see section 9.6.1 d). I also
            agree with Bill that space-by-space method is the only way
            to provide meaningful feedback to the design team. It also
            helps to catch issues with LPD calculations, such as
            treating partial or temporary lighting in core and shell
            spaces as complete lighting system, or failing to include
            unspecified plug-in lighting in hotels into LPD
            calculations. Space-by-space method also comes with a carrot
            of increased lighting allowances as described in 9.6.2.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Maria
            <o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext">
                <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org">equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org</a>
                [<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org">mailto:equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org</a>] <b>On
                  Behalf Of </b>Patrick J. O'Leary, Jr.<br>
                <b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, May 23, 2012 3:41 PM<br>
                <b>To:</b> Bishop, Bill<br>
                <b>Cc:</b> eQuest Users; Oscar B.<br>
                <b>Subject:</b> Re: [Equest-users] Building area method
                ASHRAE 90.1<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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        <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">referencing
            this comment:  "The only obvious case for using the Building
            Area Method to determine modeled LPD is the case that Nick
            mentioned where lighting neither exists nor is specified."</span><br>
          <span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><br>
            or when the lighting designer/electrical engineer has higher
            lighting densities that exceed one (or more) of the
            space-by-space maximum allowable lpds but compensates for it
            by having lower lpds in other spaces such that the whole
            building lpd does not exceed the maximum allowable by the
            whole building method.<br>
            <br>
            <br>
            <br>
          </span><br>
          On 5/23/12 7:45 AM, Bishop, Bill wrote: <o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Building
            Area and Space-by-Space are not methods for designing
            lighting systems. They are prescriptive requirements for
            demonstrating lighting energy compliance in 90.1. The LPD
            allowances in Tables 9.5.1 and 9.6.1 do not need to be
            complied with if using energy modeling to demonstrate
            compliance for 90.1 and for LEED. (Only the Mandatory
            Provisions of 9.4 need to be met for the lighting design.)
            Energy modelers only need to know the lighting power and
            space use categorizations of the design as shown on the
            drawings (along with schedules and controls), not the
            process used to design it (which typically considers light
            levels in footcandles or lux).</span><o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">I
            think that <i>if</i> a lighting system has been designed, a
            strong argument can be made that the space-by-space method
            needs to be used in both the proposed and baseline cases,
            and that lighting power needs to be entered individually for
            each space/zone.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">               
            “If construction documents are complete, the proposed
            building lighting system power is modeled as shown on the
            design documents.” (ASHRAE 90.1 User’s Manual, p. G-17)  </span><o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">“The
            LPD for the proposed design is taken from the design
            documents for the building. The LPD specified in the models
            must correspond to the spaces within each thermal block.”
            (ASHRAE 90.1 User’s Manual, p. 11-14 and also p. G-18)</span><o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">The
            only obvious case for using the Building Area Method to
            determine modeled LPD is the case that Nick mentioned where
            lighting neither exists nor is specified.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">As
            Maria Karpman, Nick and Patrick have mentioned, you are
            likely to show higher energy savings using the
            Space-by-Space method. Beyond that, using Space-by-Space
            allows you to give valuable feedback to the design team,
            which I would argue is a responsibility of energy modelers.
            It is routine for me to point out areas of potential
            improvement of the lighting design in every project I model,
            based on the allowances in Table 9.6.1. “Yes, Ms. Architect,
            that is a lovely looking light fixture, but 2.6 W/ft2 of
            lounge lighting is more than twice the baseline allowance.”
            I don’t know how you give helpful feedback if you are just
            comparing two building-averaged lighting power densities.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Regards,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Bill</span><o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext">
                <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                  href="mailto:equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org">equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org</a>
                [<a moz-do-not-send="true"
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                <b>On Behalf Of </b>Patrick J. O'Leary, Jr.<br>
                <b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, May 22, 2012 7:28 PM<br>
                <b>To:</b> Nick Caton<br>
                <b>Cc:</b> eQuest Users; Oscar B.<br>
                <b>Subject:</b> Re: [Equest-users] Building area method
                ASHRAE 90.1</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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        <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal">actually nick, i agree with you.  since i
          don't design lighting systems i always ask the lighting
          designer which method they're using before i start building a
          model.  almost all of the lighting designer's i've worked with
          use the whole building area method, though as you point out
          the space-by-space method can actually do a bit better for
          energy savings.<br>
          <br>
          my point is that there isn't a mandate to use either the
          space-by-space or whole building area method and there is no
          justification as far as 90.1-200x is concerned for a usgbc
          reviewer to claim that the space-by-space method be used.  the
          requirement per 90.1 is that the method be consistent in both
          the proposed and baseline models.  space-by-space in both or
          whole building in both.  this is what i've had to point out to
          reviewer's when i've received comments.  just quote chapter
          & verse to show that the method (space-by-space or whole
          building) used meets the 90.1 app g requirement and is applied
          the same in both models.<br>
          <br>
          as far as comcheck, comcheck reports from lighting designers
          are only as good as the individual filling them out.  i've had
          lighting designers (with all of their extra letters including
          pe after their names) fill them out incorrectly.  i.e. not
          having all the lighting fixtures the same in drawing schedules
          as input into comcheck, not having same number of fixtures in
          drawings and in comcheck, not having the same floor areas in
          drawings and in comcheck, and worst of all, not using the same
          methodology in comcheck that they've used to design the
          lighting system in the first place.   yes, i've seen comcheck
          reports that indicate space-by-space when the lighting
          designer has told me whole building method.  and vice versa. 
          so i always end up confirming my lighting take-offs (from the
          lighting plans) and methodology with the lighting
          designer/electrical engineer and their comcheck report.<br>
          <br>
          On 5/22/12 3:58 PM, Nick Caton wrote: <o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Hmm,
            I think I’m on the fence here.  </span><o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><br>
            My practice is identical to Vikram’s description for both
            energy modeling and when documenting compliance for my
            lighting designs:  Choose whatever method you wish, but
            always use the same approach for baseline and proposed. 
            This is pretty clear outside of Appendix G, when documenting
            compliance.  For modeling, I don’t use either approach
            predominantly – it depends on the project.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Since
            Patrick is pushing one side, I’ll play devil’s advocate =): 
            I can affirm I’ve used “whole building” averaged LPD in
            proposed models for successful LEED submission without
            incident multiple times, documenting that clearly along the
            way, but I was using “whole building” for the baseline as
            well in each instance.  I do not personally read 90.1 or
            LEED to explicitly require LPD be defined with
            space-by-space for a proposed model.  Patrick, I just
            checked each of your citations and the only specific call
            for either method is when the lighting system has not been
            designed, in which case the whole building approach is
            prescribed.  Keep in mind both methods should sum to the
            same total installed watts for the proposed design.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Back
            to the neutral perspective:  I’ll emphasis I do use both
            approaches.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">To
            Oscar’s case:  My general experience has been the whole
            building method is less generous in net allowable watts when
            you run the numbers both ways.  In other words, you may
            stand to earn more LEED points by making your baseline more
            detailed, using space by space.  My suggestion for Oscar is
            to simply go with the reviewer’s flow and possibly walk away
            with another point tucked under your arm… it’ll probably be
            a similar amount of effort on your part relative to
            composing an opposing response, and you won’t have to worry
            about the reviewer disagreeing =).  </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">I
            agree space-by-space is ‘better’ for that reason alone – if
            different at all, it tends to yield a better performance
            rating.  I will acknowledge space-by-space is also “more
            accurate,” notably so if you’re simultaneously defining
            distinct & accurate lighting schedules space-by-space,
            but whether the corresponding additional time investment and
            resulting “accuracy boost” are advantageous for a given LEED
            model is a toss-up.  I personally feel the role accuracy
            plays in a LEED model is often overblown to a point of
            silliness, but that’s a personal call we each need to make
            and a whole ‘nother discussion.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Hot
            related tip:  energy modelers and MEP designers alike need
            to be aware of COMcheck.  I find it an invaluable time saver
            for speeding up takeoffs for whole bldg & space by space
            calcs, and it’s only as costly as eQuest.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">~Nick</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext">
                <a moz-do-not-send="true"
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                <b>On Behalf Of </b>Patrick J. O'Leary, Jr.<br>
                <b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, May 22, 2012 4:49 PM<br>
                <b>To:</b> Sami, Vikram<br>
                <b>Cc:</b> eQuest Users; Oscar B.<br>
                <b>Subject:</b> Re: [Equest-users] Building area method
                ASHRAE 90.1</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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        <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal">as long as a lighting system has been
          designed:<br>
          <br>
          according to ashrae/appendix g the uniform/whole building
          method applies a uniform lpd to the BASELINE building only
          while the PROPOSED uses what is designed - so long as the
          design is based on the whole building area method.  the lpd of
          the PROPOSED design should not be applied uniformly to the
          PROPOSED building simulation.  <br>
          <br>
          see appendix g, table g3.1, section 6 lighting, subsection b,
          page 173 (2004), page 179 (2007).  user's manual pages g-17/18
          (2004 & 2007)<br>
          <br>
          i would suggest to quote table g3.1 when replying to the
          reviewer's comment.  i have had reviewer's tell me i have to
          use the space-by-space method in a simulation for both
          proposed and baseline buildings.  this is not correct.  what
          is correct is that the simulation reflect the methodology used
          by the lighting designer.  if the lighting design is based on
          the whole building method then the whole building method
          maximum lpd is used in the BASELINE building.  if the design
          is based on the space-by-space method then the space-by-space
          maximum lpd for each space type is used in the BASELINE
          building.  in either case the PROPOSED building should reflect
          what is designed.  by 'what is designed' i mean look at the
          lighting plans, lighting schedules, and enter the lpd for each
          space/zone (thermal block) based on the number of fixtures,
          watts per fixture, and square feet of space.<br>
          <br>
          <br>
          <br>
          On 5/22/12 2:15 PM, Sami, Vikram wrote: <o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">The
            building area method applies a uniform LPD to the entire
            building. If you do that in your baseline, you need to apply
            a uniform LPD to you proposed building too. </span><o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">In
            general, I don’t recommend using the building are method –
            the space by space method is a better approach. </span><o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
        <div>
          <p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace:none"><b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#DCAA2C"> </span></b><o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace:none"><b><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:gray">Vikram
                Sami</span></b><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:gray">,
              LEED AP BD+C</span><o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace:none"><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:gray">Sustainable
              Design Analyst</span><o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace:none"><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:gray">1315
              Peachtree St. NE, Atlanta, GA 30309</span><o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace:none"><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:gray">t:
              404-443-7462    f: </span><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:gray"
              lang="ES">404.892.5823   </span><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:gray">   
              e: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                href="mailto:vikram.sami@perkinswill.com">vikram.sami@perkinswill.com</a>  
            </span><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><a
                moz-do-not-send="true"
                href="http://www.perkinswill.com/"><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:gray;text-decoration:none">www.perkinswill.com</span></a></span><o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"
            style="margin-bottom:3.0pt;text-autospace:none"><b><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:gray">Perkins+Will.</span></b><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:gray"> 
            </span><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#ADD425">Ideas
              + buildings that honor the broader goals of society</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">
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                <b>On Behalf Of </b>Oscar B.<br>
                <b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, May 22, 2012 4:38 PM<br>
                <b>To:</b> eQuest Users<br>
                <b>Subject:</b> [Equest-users] Building area method
                ASHRAE 90.1</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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        <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
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style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
            <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">How
                does the building area method work?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
            <p class="MsoNormal" id="yui_3_2_0_20_1337697656927248"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
            <p class="MsoNormal" id="yui_3_2_0_20_1337697656927251"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">I
                just got a comment from the review team for a project
                pursuing LEED certification.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
            <p class="MsoNormal" id="yui_3_2_0_20_1337697656927254"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
            <p class="MsoNormal" id="yui_3_2_0_20_1337697656927257"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">I
                used the building area method for the baseline case and
                in the proposed case I put the <span class="mark">LPD</span>
                from the lighting design. However they told me that the
                same method has to be used in both cases.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
            <p class="MsoNormal" id="yui_3_2_0_20_1337697656927260"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
            <p class="MsoNormal" id="yui_3_2_0_20_1337697656927263"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">Any
                help would be appreciate.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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