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    as long as a lighting system has been designed:<br>
    <br>
    according to ashrae/appendix g the uniform/whole building method
    applies a uniform lpd to the BASELINE building only while the
    PROPOSED uses what is designed - so long as the design is based on
    the whole building area method.  the lpd of the PROPOSED design
    should not be applied uniformly to the PROPOSED building
    simulation.  <br>
    <br>
    see appendix g, table g3.1, section 6 lighting, subsection b, page
    173 (2004), page 179 (2007).  user's manual pages g-17/18 (2004
    & 2007)<br>
    <br>
    i would suggest to quote table g3.1 when replying to the reviewer's
    comment.  i have had reviewer's tell me i have to use the
    space-by-space method in a simulation for both proposed and baseline
    buildings.  this is not correct.  what is correct is that the
    simulation reflect the methodology used by the lighting designer. 
    if the lighting design is based on the whole building method then
    the whole building method maximum lpd is used in the BASELINE
    building.  if the design is based on the space-by-space method then
    the space-by-space maximum lpd for each space type is used in the
    BASELINE building.  in either case the PROPOSED building should
    reflect what is designed.  by 'what is designed' i mean look at the
    lighting plans, lighting schedules, and enter the lpd for each
    space/zone (thermal block) based on the number of fixtures, watts
    per fixture, and square feet of space.<br>
    <br>
    <br>
    <br>
    On 5/22/12 2:15 PM, Sami, Vikram wrote:
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            building area method applies a uniform LPD to the entire
            building. If you do that in your baseline, you need to apply
            a uniform LPD to you proposed building too. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">In
            general, I don’t recommend using the building are method –
            the space by space method is a better approach. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace:none"><b><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:gray">Vikram
                Sami</span></b><span
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              LEED AP BD+C<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span
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                <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org">equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org</a>
                [<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org">mailto:equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org</a>] <b>On
                  Behalf Of </b>Oscar B.<br>
                <b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, May 22, 2012 4:38 PM<br>
                <b>To:</b> eQuest Users<br>
                <b>Subject:</b> [Equest-users] Building area method
                ASHRAE 90.1<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
            <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">How
                does the building area method work?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
            <p class="MsoNormal" id="yui_3_2_0_20_1337697656927251"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">I
                just got a comment from the review team for a project
                pursuing LEED certification.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
            <p class="MsoNormal" id="yui_3_2_0_20_1337697656927254"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
            <p class="MsoNormal" id="yui_3_2_0_20_1337697656927257"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">I
                used the building area method for the baseline case and
                in the proposed case I put the <span class="mark">LPD</span>
                from the lighting design. However they told me that the
                same method has to be used in both cases.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
            <p class="MsoNormal" id="yui_3_2_0_20_1337697656927260"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
            <p class="MsoNormal" id="yui_3_2_0_20_1337697656927263"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">Any
                help would be appreciate.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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