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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>You need a hearing source to select your Appendix G Baseline system type so Table G3.1#10 is telling you that you should enter Table G3.1.1A in the “Electric and Other” column when the design does not require heat. Without this statement it would be unclear how to select the Baseline system type. Hope this helps.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Have a great day!<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Cam Fitzgerald<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org [mailto:equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>CleanTech Analytics<br><b>Sent:</b> Friday, May 04, 2012 2:19 AM<br><b>To:</b> </span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"MS UI Gothic","sans-serif"'>一叶扁舟</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'><br><b>Cc:</b> equest-users<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Equest-users] should i simulate the heating system when no heating system in proposed building<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#336666'>My interpretation of this is: </span><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#336666'>If you model a building with electric baseboard heating in a climate that has no real heating load, and you use a baseline and model with baseboard heating that your thermostat should not turn the heating on so long as your building is thermally well designed- so the simplest route would be to use the system specified for compliance in your model as a method to show heating is not needed. You could set your setpoint to the minimum for thermal comfort for your region. Then document why you did not use heating in the actual building possibly might use the tool called 'climate consultant' to show how your climate supports this design for documentation. </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#336666'>Others on this list may have know more, but I figure I would share-- best of luck</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#336666'><br clear=all></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><i><span style='font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#999999'>Jeremiah D. Crossett</span></i><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><i><span style='font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#999999'>CleanTech Analytics</span></i><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><i><span style='font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#999999'>503-688-8951</span></i><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><a href="http://www.cleantechanalytics.com" target="_blank"><i><span style='font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#999999'>www.cleantechanalytics.com</span></i></a><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><img border=0 id="_x0000_i1025" src="http://cleantechanalytics.com/images/stories/cleantech%20analytics%20120.PNG"><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p align=center style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;text-align:center'><i><span style='font-size:6.5pt;font-family:"Droid Serif","serif";color:#CCCCCC;background:white'>This document may contain valuable information proprietary to CleanTech Analytics which is private and confidential. It may not be shared, copied, stored or transmitted in any form without the prior written consent of CleanTech Analytics</span></i><b><o:p></o:p></b></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><br><br><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 9:02 PM, <span style='font-family:"MS Gothic"'>一叶扁舟</span> <<a href="mailto:546751190@qq.com" target="_blank">546751190@qq.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Dear all <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>I have one question: when proposed building has no heating system, such as in HongKong, the weather is hot, it’s not necessary to design heating system in winter.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>While Appendix G table G3.1 No.10 says: “c. Where no heating system exists or no heating system has been specified, the heating system classification shall be assumed to be electric, and the system characteristics shall be identical to the system modeled in the baseline building design.” <br>Should it be explained as such: if the building is to design heating system later, the heating system should be electric, but not in allusion to HongKong’s instance. Therefore when there’s no necessary to design heating system in proposed building, the two models (proposed and baseline ) can be modeled without heating system, am I right?<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Thanks a lot.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><br>_______________________________________________<br>Equest-users mailing list<br><a href="http://lists.onebuilding.org/listinfo.cgi/equest-users-onebuilding.org" target="_blank">http://lists.onebuilding.org/listinfo.cgi/equest-users-onebuilding.org</a><br>To unsubscribe from this mailing list send a blank message to <a href="mailto:EQUEST-USERS-UNSUBSCRIBE@ONEBUILDING.ORG">EQUEST-USERS-UNSUBSCRIBE@ONEBUILDING.ORG</a><o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></div></body></html>