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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"; color:#1F497D">Just to add to the conversation  - has everyone seen the Utilities Gateway (<a href="http://en.openei.org/wiki/Gateway:Utilities"><span style="color:#1F497D; text-decoration:none">http://en.openei.org/wiki/Gateway:Utilities</span></a>)
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"; color:#1F497D">I often find the actual tariff structure associated with a project (especially when considering differing rate structures between T&D and generation) require
 me to develop a custom spreadsheet to post-process eQUEST hourly output to synthesize a virtual utility bill.  This spreadsheet development can be tedious work (especially when savings result in crossing service classes), and keeping the spreadsheets up to
 date and accurate requires diligent effort. I shudder to think about how many person-hours are spent by modelers across the country essentially doing the same thing, over and over and over.  Doesn’t seem to be an efficient use of resources.  In de-regulated
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"; color:#1F497D">However – for many parts of the country –  I do think a cool “pay as you go” web-service would be one where a tool agnostic hourly file could be uploaded,
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org [mailto:equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>norman wheatley<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Saturday, March 03, 2012 12:46 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> John Aulbach<br>
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<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Equest-users] incorrect virtual rates?</span></p>
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Actually, I don't think that's the problem. eQuest rates, in this case at least, are oversimplified. I seriously doubt if they were ever correct.<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Sat, Mar 3, 2012 at 7:25 AM, John Aulbach <<a href="mailto:jra_sac@yahoo.com">jra_sac@yahoo.com</a>> wrote:</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""> CleanTech Analytics <<a href="mailto:jeremiah@cleantechanalytics.com" target="_blank">jeremiah@cleantechanalytics.com</a>><br>
<b>To:</b> norman wheatley <<a href="mailto:normwheatley@gmail.com" target="_blank">normwheatley@gmail.com</a>>
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<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, March 1, 2012 8:29 PM<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Equest-users] incorrect virtual rates?</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 at 7:08 PM, norman wheatley <<a href="mailto:normwheatley@gmail.com" target="_blank">normwheatley@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</p>
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I'm doing a LEED project in California. We're using PAcific Gas and Electric's GNR-1 gas rate but it comes out quite low. If you go to PG&E's website it seems that eQuest's virtual rate (which is 60 c/therm) is ignoring the Transportation and PPP part of the
 charges - ie 40 cents is missing.<br>
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there's a similar problem with the electricity rates - A10a but eQuest is overestimating the rate by 40%.<br>
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What do you do for the utility rates? Do you input them yourself or rely on eQuests rate schedules?<br>
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thanks<br>
Norm<br>
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