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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Yitian,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>The humidity control in eQUEST is in the “Basics” tab for the air system in the detailed edit mode. Unfortunately humidity control is not available for an evaporative cooling system. See the lower right corner in the image below.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><img width=769 height=480 id="Picture_x0020_1" src="cid:image003.jpg@01CCCEE5.7CA43270"></span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>You can get a sense for space humidity levels from report SS-N to see if humidity control may be an issue. If you find it is an issue, you may need to edit the .inp file. Search the DOE-2 help for keywords like MAX-HUMIDITY and MIN-HUMIDITY for more details. The increased heating might be caused by something else besides humidity control. That’s just the first thing that came to my mind.<o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>________________________________</span><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><ns0:PersonName><span style='color:#1F497D'>Keith Swartz</span></ns0:PersonName><span style='color:#1F497D'>, P.E., LEED AP</span></span><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><br>Energy Engineer / Senior Project Manager<br></span><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><ns0:PlaceName><span style='color:#1F497D'>Energy</span></ns0:PlaceName><span style='color:#1F497D'> </span><ns0:PlaceType><span style='color:#1F497D'>Center</span></ns0:PlaceType><span style='color:#1F497D'> of </span><ns0:place><ns0:State><span style='color:#1F497D'>Wisconsin</span><span style='color:#1F497D;font-weight:normal'><br></span><span style='font-weight:normal'></ns0:State></span></ns0:place></span></b><ns0:Street><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><ns0:address><span style='color:#1F497D'>455 Science Drive, Suite 200, </span></ns0:address></ns0:Street></span><ns0:place><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><ns0:City><span style='color:#1F497D'>Madison</span></ns0:City><span style='color:#1F497D'>, </span><ns0:State><span style='color:#1F497D'>WI</span></ns0:State><span style='color:#1F497D'> </span><ns0:PostalCode><span style='color:#1F497D'>53711<br></span></ns0:PostalCode></ns0:place></span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Phone: 608.238.8276 x123<br>Fax: 608.238.0523<br><br></span><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>The Buildings Team</span></b><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><i><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Design decisions through energy, economics and emissions analysis.</span></i><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><a href="http://www.ecw.org/Buildings">www.ecw.org/Buildings</a> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><br></span><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><ns0:place><ns0:PlaceName><span style='color:#1F497D'>Energy</span></ns0:PlaceName><span style='color:#1F497D'> </span><ns0:PlaceType><span style='color:#1F497D'>Center</span></ns0:PlaceType><span style='color:#1F497D'> </span><ns0:PlaceType><span style='color:#1F497D'>University<br></span></ns0:PlaceType></ns0:place></span></b><i><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Your gateway to sustainable design training and online education programs.<br></span></i><span style='color:#1F497D'><a href="http://www.ecw.org/university/" title="http://www.ecw.org/university/"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>www.ecw.org/university/</span></a></span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Yitian Zhu [mailto:yitian@efficiency20.com] <br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, January 09, 2012 1:53 PM<br><b>To:</b> Keith Swartz<br><b>Cc:</b> equest-users@lists.onebuilding.org<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Equest-users] why more heating usage with evaporative cooler<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Keith,<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Thank you very much for replying this.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>I've actually did some investigate into this issue and had some ideas about possible solutions and, I thought it could because that Evaporative Cooler runs even during heating season, but since I have the same setting of cooling & fan schedule for DX Coil or Chilled Water Cooling, why would EVP Cooler have this problem? And which input represents the humidity control of EVP Cooler? I wonder which input could determine the set point between cooling and heating season? Or, I should basically create separated seasons for the cooling,heating & fan schedule? I guess it would be unreliable.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Thank you Again for your help!<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Best,<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Yitian<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Energy Analyst <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Efficiency 2.0<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 12:47 PM, Keith Swartz <<a href="mailto:kswartz@ecw.org">kswartz@ecw.org</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Yitian,</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Is the evaporative cooler also controlling the humidity during the heating season? If so, that might explain it. More heating would be needed to compensate for the cooling effect of adding cold moisture to the airstream.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>________________________________</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Keith Swartz, P.E., LEED AP</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><br>Energy Engineer / Senior Project Manager<br><b>Energy Center of Wisconsin</b><br>455 Science Drive, Suite 200, Madison, WI 53711<br>Phone: <a href="tel:608.238.8276%20x123" target="_blank">608.238.8276 x123</a><br>Fax: <a href="tel:608.238.0523" target="_blank">608.238.0523</a><br><br><b>The Buildings Team</b></span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><i><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Design decisions through energy, economics and emissions analysis.</span></i><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><a href="http://www.ecw.org/Buildings" target="_blank">www.ecw.org/Buildings</a> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='color:#1F497D'><br></span><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Energy Center University<br></span></b><i><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Your gateway to sustainable design training and online education programs.<br></span></i><span style='color:#1F497D'><a href="http://www.ecw.org/university/" target="_blank" title="http://www.ecw.org/university/"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>www.ecw.org/university/</span></a></span><o:p></o:p></p><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Yitian Zhu [mailto:<a href="mailto:yitian@efficiency20.com" target="_blank">yitian@efficiency20.com</a>] <br><b>Sent:</b> Friday, January 06, 2012 4:01 PM<br><b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:equest-users@lists.onebuilding.org" target="_blank">equest-users@lists.onebuilding.org</a><br><b>Subject:</b> [Equest-users] why more heating usage with evaporative cooler</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Hi,<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>I'm new to eQuest, recently I'm modeling a office building with evaporative cooler, I did a sample test and found out that, for the same building, significantly more heating is consumed with the model using evaporative cooler than others using DX coil or chilled water cooler. Does anybody noticed that and, why is that?<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Great thanks!<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Yitian<o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></div></body></html>