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<DIV><SPAN class=734495722-07012012><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>Karen,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=734495722-07012012><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=734495722-07012012><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>I am
interested in your plugin.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=734495722-07012012><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>I use
eQUEST, energyplus, TRNSYS for building design.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=734495722-07012012><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>So
having one 3D-Builder for all 3 would be nice.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=734495722-07012012><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>So
what do you think about fee.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=734495722-07012012><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=734495722-07012012><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>Regards Heinrich</FONT></SPAN></DIV><BR>
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<FONT face=Tahoma size=2><B>Von:</B> Karen Walkerman
[mailto:kwalkerman@gmail.com] <BR><B>Gesendet:</B> Mittwoch, 4. Januar 2012
18:22<BR><B>An:</B> equest-users@lists.onebuilding.org<BR><B>Betreff:</B> Re:
[Equest-users] How to import 3D model<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>I have also struggled with this issue. In addition to setting
up complex geometry (pitched roofs, cathedral ceilings, floors that are
partially underground, etc) one of the other challenges of the eQuest workflow
is the requirement to re-define all custom windows if a zone line changes.
I actually wrote a SketchUp plugin to help me get geometry from Sketchup
into eQuest (and EnergyPlus). In eQuest, I also have the ability to set up
space types with global parameters so that all "office" spaces are named
"office" and their occupancy, lighting and equipment loads reference global
parameters named "office_occ", "office_lpd" and "office_equip". This way
it's easy to make changes to large parts of the model when you're in detailed
edit mode.
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>The Sketchup model is a dedicated model created for the energy model, but
the geometry is MUCH easier to create in SU than in eQuest, and my export method
creates a much cleaner inp file than the wizard. If there are 5 floors,
there is only one exterior wall construction type, and only one office_occ
schedule.</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>Sketchup geometry: <A
href="http://imgur.com/eQHWq">http://imgur.com/eQHWq</A> </DIV>
<DIV>eQuest geometry: <A
href="http://imgur.com/SU7oo">http://imgur.com/SU7oo</A> </DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>If there is enough interest, I can clean up the script and make it
available for a fee. I spent too much time creating it to make it
available for free.</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>--</DIV>
<DIV>Karen<BR><BR>
<DIV class=gmail_quote>On Wed, Jan 4, 2012 at 12:14 PM, Neil Bulger <SPAN
dir=ltr><<A
href="mailto:nbulger@integralgroup.com">nbulger@integralgroup.com</A>></SPAN>
wrote:<BR>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">Try
looking at GreenspaceLIVE. This plugin for google sketchup for exporting gbXML
file formats. The light weight plugin can rapidly decrease the time to draw
geometry for use in multiple programs. I have exported files from here to
eQuest, EnergyPro, Trace and EnergyPlus. The tool is not without its
flaws and we have been working to best understand the errors Autodesks GBS
throws at us with the translation process to inp.<U></U><U></U></SPAN></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">The
big draw of this workflow model is the ability to push geometry to several
tools and setup skill sets that can grow as energy modeling shifts to
energyplus. The tool was free for a while but now has a monthly fee. 30 day
trials are available though.<U></U><U></U></SPAN></P>
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href="http://openrevit.com/2011/08/green-spaces-live-free-gbxml-tool/"
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href="mailto:equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org"
target=_blank>equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org</A> [mailto:<A
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</B>Wolfe, Brian<BR><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, January 04, 2012 8:19
AM<BR><B>To:</B> Matthew W. Higgins; Peter Hillermann; 'Sami, Vikram'; 'Adam
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<DIV class=h5><BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Equest-users] How to import 3D
model<U></U><U></U></DIV></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">I
appreciate the comments that everyone has posted concerning this model
importing issue. There’s been some great discussions revolving
around what others have tried and the pitfalls that have been dealt with till
now. I had no idea about the translation issues with .gbxml. This
is good to know, as it always seems to pop up as the saving grace in model
export/importing. I do know from discussions with model developers that
this issue is understood. But like what Patrick stated, it makes since
that the different software companies aren’t going to want its programs to be
compatible with its competitors despite the demand that is obviously
there. (This thread is a great example.) <U></U><U></U></SPAN></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'"><U></U><U></U></SPAN> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">I
know that this has been a beneficial discussion for me, and hopefully
beneficial to others. I would appreciate any updates that teams run
across in this effort to bridge the gap between the design model and the
energy model. It will only benefit our industry.
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'"> <A
href="mailto:equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org"
target=_blank>equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org</A> [mailto:<A
href="mailto:equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org"
target=_blank>equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org</A>] <B>On Behalf Of
</B>Matthew W. Higgins<BR><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, January 04, 2012 9:36
AM<BR><B>To:</B> Peter Hillermann; 'Sami, Vikram'; 'Adam Barker'; 'm zahid';
'e quest'<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Equest-users] How to import 3D
model<U></U><U></U></SPAN></P></DIV></DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><U></U><U></U> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">Though
I was hoping to hear differently when opening this thread, I have to agree
with the common opinion here, it’s still easier to create a model in eQuest.
I’ve tried Ecotect and GreenBuilding Studio and the results have been the
same, too much information in the BIM model, and the import either doesn’t
happen or does not look at all like the building in
question.<U></U><U></U></SPAN></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'"><U></U><U></U></SPAN> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">One
thing I have been trying, for very large projects, is to use Revit’s “Model
Review” plug-in, in Revit MEP, to check the model before I export the XML.
This tool is often pretty helpful, detecting glass types and rooms and other
heat-transfer objects that will create errors. In a perfect world, the
architects we work with should run this before they send us the model… because
many of these errors have to do with the way they’re creating the architecture
in Revit.<U></U><U></U></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'"><U></U><U></U></SPAN> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">One
caveat that I have is that large models often have a lot of errors after
“Model Review,” and time remedying them often is longer than just creating the
model in eQuest. I too would like to hear how DrawBDL works, I’ve been
thinking about purchasing it for some time now.<U></U><U></U></SPAN></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'">From:</SPAN></B><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'"> <A
href="mailto:equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org"
target=_blank>equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org</A> [mailto:<A
href="mailto:equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org"
target=_blank>equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org</A>] <B>On Behalf Of
</B>Peter Hillermann<BR><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, January 04, 2012 8:08
AM<BR><B>To:</B> 'Sami, Vikram'; 'Adam Barker'; 'm zahid'; 'e
quest'<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Equest-users] How to import 3D
model<U></U><U></U></SPAN></P></DIV></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">I
like this conversation cause it is one that I have battled with for a long
time.<U></U><U></U></SPAN></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'"><U></U><U></U></SPAN> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">I’m
going to respond on top of the previous comments in saying that it all depends
on your comfort with software and 3D modeling. As below I agree with Vikram
that at the moment it is easier to just model the project directly in eQuest
and not import at all. Let me however tell you that I have built models in
eQuest, Vasari, REVIT and Ecotect and they all work fine as long as you
understand the basic principles of computer modeling. Vasari is definitely not
ready for prime time however you can use it as your integrated modeler between
eQuest and REVIT.<U></U><U></U></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'"><U></U><U></U></SPAN> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">The
one main issue that I have run into and it is working as an architect and
coordinating with our engineer that I have found out that architectural REVIT
models with gbXML information looks totally different than the zoning model
for an HVAC layout used in eQuest. The ways these models are constructed are
total different even though the exterior skin might look the
same.<U></U><U></U></SPAN></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'"><U></U><U></U></SPAN> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">I’ve
done this before but I have attached images of all the softwares to show the
model.<U></U><U></U></SPAN></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'"><U></U><U></U></SPAN> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">Just
stick with the wizard for now unless the geometries are extremely
complex.<U></U><U></U></SPAN></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'"><U></U><U></U></SPAN> </P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">Thanks,<U></U><U></U></SPAN></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'ITC Avant Garde Std Bk'; LETTER-SPACING: 1pt">PETER
HILLERMANN<U></U><U></U></SPAN></B></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'">From:</SPAN></B><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'"> <A
href="mailto:equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org"
target=_blank>equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org</A> [<A
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target=_blank>mailto:equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org</A>] <B>On
Behalf Of </B>Sami, Vikram<BR><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, January 04, 2012 9:23
AM<BR><B>To:</B> Adam Barker; 'm zahid'; 'e quest'<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re:
[Equest-users] How to import 3D model<U></U><U></U></SPAN></P></DIV></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">//</SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'"> all
things considered it seems that importing 3D geometry is not that big of a
timesaver compared to the design wizard//<U></U><U></U></SPAN></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'"><U></U><U></U></SPAN> </P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">I
agree. The argument is that with importing from Revit there is already a 3d
model available. The issue normally is that there is too much information in
the Revit model and most often it needs a LOT of clean up. Its potentially
easy if you are a person with really fantastic model management skills (I
haven’t met one yet).</SPAN><SPAN
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Sami</SPAN></B><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: gray; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">, LEED
AP BD+C<U></U><U></U></SPAN></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'">From:</SPAN></B><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'"> <A
href="mailto:equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org"
target=_blank>equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org</A> [<A
href="mailto:equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org"
target=_blank>mailto:equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org</A>] <B>On
Behalf Of </B>Adam Barker<BR><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, January 04, 2012 9:13
AM<BR><B>To:</B> 'm zahid'; 'e quest'<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Equest-users]
How to import 3D model<U></U><U></U></SPAN></P></DIV></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">One
potential workflow is Revit > Ecotect > eQuest.
<U></U><U></U></SPAN></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'"><U></U><U></U></SPAN> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">If you
google exporting Revit to Ecotect there are several videos / step by step
instructions to show you what you need to do to prepare the model. It mainly
has to do with how you define rooms, which become your thermal zones. However,
Ecotect to eQuest I haven’t been able to do very successfully. There seems to
be some problems with exporting the geometry and zones properly (which is
really the major and some would say only benefit). The only thing I was able
to import were wall constructions, which I would rather define in eQuest
anyways. I haven’t been able to find a thorough explanation of what to do in
Ecotect to prepare your geometry for eQuest. FYI, Ecotect also exports to
gbXML, Energy Plus, Radiance, etc.<U></U><U></U></SPAN></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'"><U></U><U></U></SPAN> </P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">Another
workflow is Vasari > eQuest. Vasari is an, as of now, free Autodesk program
in trial stages that is basically Revit combined with some basic DOE2 based
energy modeling capability, really just for comparing different scenarios in
early design. In my opinion this software is not ready for creating more
complex models as I found creating the zones lacks the flexibility most models
would need - The software will automatically create zones based on ASHRAE 90.1
perimeter set backs, 1 per floor, etc. Unless you have an open office plan,
this is probably not what you need. You can define your zones manually, but
not easily in my opinion. <A href="http://labs.autodesk.com/utilities/vasari/"
target=_blank>http://labs.autodesk.com/utilities/vasari/</A> - if you’re
interested.<U></U><U></U></SPAN></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'"><U></U><U></U></SPAN> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">I’ve
tried to look into this a few times now, and all things considered it seems
that importing 3D geometry is not that big of a timesaver compared to the
design wizard, if at all. If anyone has experience with these workflows, I
would be grateful to hear it.<U></U><U></U></SPAN></P>
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Behalf Of </B>m zahid<BR><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, January 04, 2012 2:46
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'">hi
<BR> <BR>Happy New Year to All. Does anybody know the any software
from which we can import 3D model into eQuest.<STRONG><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'"> </SPAN></STRONG><BR><BR> <U></U><U></U></SPAN></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'">thanks
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