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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body bgcolor=white lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>The most important factor in that is knowing the hospital’s census. What percentage of the beds are in use at any one time?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Then hospitals use a fairly typical work day where most procedures happen between 7am and 6pm, but there are exceptions. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Yes, you can create a separate electric meter under the utilities tab, and then assign the loads to that meter. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><table class=MsoNormalTable border=0 cellpadding=0 width=474 style='width:355.5pt'><tr><td width=167 valign=top style='width:125.25pt;padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#660000;text-transform:uppercase'>Fred Betz</span></b><b><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#333333'> </span></b><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#333333'>PhD., LEED AP <br></span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#333333;text-transform:uppercase'>Sustainable Systems Analyst</span><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#333333'><o:p></o:p></span></p></td><td width=10 valign=top style='width:7.5pt;padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt'><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#333333'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></td><td width=283 valign=top style='width:212.25pt;padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#660000'>AEI</span></b><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#333333'> | AFFILIATED ENGINEERS, INC. <br>5802 Research Park Blvd. | Madison, WI 53719<br><br></span><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#660000'>P: 608.236.1175 | F: 608.238.2614</span><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#333333'> <br></span><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#660000'><a href="mailto:fbetz@aeieng.com"><span style='color:#660000;text-decoration:none'>fbetz@aeieng.com</span></a> | </span><b><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#660000'><a href="http://www.aeieng.com/"><span style='color:#660000;text-decoration:none'>www.aeieng.com</span></a></span></b><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#333333'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></td></tr></table><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext'> Chen, Ke-Huang [mailto:kehuang.chen@siemens.com] <br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, October 26, 2011 5:56 AM<br><b>To:</b> Fred Betz; Bruce Easterbrook<br><b>Cc:</b> equest-users@lists.onebuilding.org<br><b>Subject:</b> RE: [Equest-users] Medical equipments<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:blue'>Hi Fred,</span><span style='color:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:windowtext'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:blue'>Thanks for your information.</span><span style='color:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:blue'>I also have a question about the schedule of medical equipments. Since it is only used when there is a patient, how do you schedule the medical equipments.</span><span style='color:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:blue'>Is there any way I can schedule the medical equipments separately?</span><span style='color:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:windowtext'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:blue'>Many thanks for your any help.</span><span style='color:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:windowtext'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:blue'>Best regards,</span><span style='color:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:windowtext'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:windowtext'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><strong><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:windowtext'>KeHuang Chen</span></strong><span style='color:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><strong><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:windowtext'>System Engineer</span></strong><span style='color:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><strong><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:windowtext'>ICBT Division</span></strong><span style='color:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><strong><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:windowtext'>Siemens Limited Taiwan</span></strong><span style='color:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:windowtext'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><strong><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:windowtext'>Tel : (+886)2-2652-8888 ext. 896</span></strong><span style='color:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><strong><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:windowtext'>Mobile : (+886)960548011</span></strong><span style='color:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><strong><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:windowtext'>Fax : (+886)2-2652-8824</span></strong><span style='color:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:windowtext'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:windowtext'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:windowtext'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><span style='color:windowtext'><hr size=2 width="100%" align=center></span></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext'> Fred Betz [mailto:fbetz@aeieng.com] <br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, October 25, 2011 9:25 PM<br><b>To:</b> Bruce Easterbrook; Chen, Ke-Huang<br><b>Cc:</b> equest-users@lists.onebuilding.org<br><b>Subject:</b> RE: [Equest-users] Medical equipments</span><span style='color:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Chen,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I do a lot of LEED modeling in health care. You should be seeing between 20% and 35% for the electrical process load. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>If you have a lot of large equipment; CT’s, MRI’s, etc. then you’ll be closer to the 35%. If you have a small clinic or medical office building that shares equipment between locations, then you’ll be closer to 20%. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Another consideration is that your large equipment might be water cooled. If that’s the case, you should put about 10-15% of the electric load in the space, and then 85-90% of the load as an external load similar to exterior lights. Make sure to put an equivalent cooling load on you chilled water loop as a process load. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Hope that helps,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Fred<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><table class=MsoNormalTable border=0 cellpadding=0 width=474 style='width:355.5pt'><tr><td width=167 valign=top style='width:125.25pt;padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#660000;text-transform:uppercase'>Fred Betz</span></b><b><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#333333'> </span></b><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#333333'>PhD., LEED AP <br></span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#333333;text-transform:uppercase'>Sustainable Systems Analyst</span><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#333333'><o:p></o:p></span></p></td><td width=10 valign=top style='width:7.5pt;padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt'><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#333333'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></td><td width=283 valign=top style='width:212.25pt;padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#660000'>AEI</span></b><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#333333'> | AFFILIATED ENGINEERS, INC. <br>5802 Research Park Blvd. | Madison, WI 53719<br><br></span><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#660000'>P: 608.236.1175 | F: 608.238.2614</span><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#333333'> <br></span><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#660000'><a href="mailto:fbetz@aeieng.com"><span style='color:#660000;text-decoration:none'>fbetz@aeieng.com</span></a> | <b><a href="http://www.aeieng.com/"><span style='color:#660000;text-decoration:none'>www.aeieng.com</span></a></b></span><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#333333'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></td></tr></table><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext'> Bruce Easterbrook [mailto:bruce5@bellnet.ca] <br><b>Sent:</b> Sunday, October 23, 2011 9:35 PM<br><b>To:</b> Chen, Ke-Huang<br><b>Cc:</b> equest-users@lists.onebuilding.org<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Equest-users] Medical equipments<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:13.5pt'>Hi Chen,<br> I don't do much medical work or LEED but the medical equipment should be modelled like a process load and have it's own schedule you can manipulate. 60% sounds like a lot. With it's own schedule you can change it to reflect its actual loads and locations in the building. Process loads, like industrial loads don't effect LEED. But they do effect the sizing of your HVAC equipment. So you do have to model them realistically. You could put them on their own sub meter as well. This might make separating from the LEED parts of your project simpler. LEED or not, your building has to work well. That is your primary focus. 60% is a big effect, make sure it is realistic and make sure your systems can handle it.<br>Bruce Easterbrook P.Eng.<br>Abode Engineering<br></span><br>On 23/10/2011 4:35 AM, Chen, Ke-Huang wrote: <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Dear eQUEST users,</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>I am trying to build a LEED Health Care model and have a question about the electric of medical equipments. After I modeled the equipments, the electric consumption of Misc. Equip. is about 60% of total electric but the medical equipments are not used very frequently. Do I have to add the medical equipments to the model or where can I plan a schedule for the medical equipments? Did anyone have the experience of modeling a LEED Health Care model? It's my first time building a Health Care model, is there anything I need to look over ? Any suggestion will be appreciated.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Best regards,</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><strong><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>KeHuang Chen</span></strong><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><strong><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>System Engineer</span></strong><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><strong><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>IBT Division</span></strong><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><strong><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Siemens Limited Taiwan</span></strong><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><strong><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Tel : (+886)2-2652-8888 ext. 896</span></strong><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><strong><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Mobile : (+886)960548011</span></strong><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><strong><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Fax : (+886)2-2652-8824</span></strong><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><br><br><o:p></o:p></p><pre>_______________________________________________<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>Equest-users mailing list<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><a href="http://lists.onebuilding.org/listinfo.cgi/equest-users-onebuilding.org">http://lists.onebuilding.org/listinfo.cgi/equest-users-onebuilding.org</a><o:p></o:p></pre><pre>To unsubscribe from this mailing list send a blank message to <a href="mailto:EQUEST-USERS-UNSUBSCRIBE@ONEBUILDING.ORG">EQUEST-USERS-UNSUBSCRIBE@ONEBUILDING.ORG</a><o:p></o:p></pre></div></body></html>