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Hi Jude,<br>
<br>
You can always justify using mechanical zones if they are available.
I would be surprised if there are 500 of them.<br>
<br>
Carol<br>
<br>
On 10/21/2011 2:25 PM, Chakraborty, Jude wrote:
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Thanks
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">I think going
back simplifying the model with weighted zones instead of
the architectural space types (which I had originally
modeled with) will be the best option. Hopefully this will
help. I know splitting the model is another option I can
try, but then again, that’s an untouched territory as far as
my equest skills are concerned. I will keep you posted on
that.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Thanks again,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Jude.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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Nick Caton [<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:ncaton@smithboucher.com">mailto:ncaton@smithboucher.com</a>] <br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, October 21, 2011 2:05 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Dahlstrom, Aaron; Chakraborty, Jude;
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:equest-users@lists.onebuilding.org">equest-users@lists.onebuilding.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [Equest-users] Equest freeze and
Spreadsheet refresh error<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Jude/Aaron,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">When I’ve run
into this circumstance I’ve taken it as great justification
to go back and simplify the model. If that’s not out of the
question considering your timeline and requirements for
accuracy, I would definitely advise carefully assessing
whether you can define things in a simpler fashion.
Attached recent discussion with James Chueh seems to
parallel your situation and may help you brainstorm a few
ideas. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">I’ve never done
this due to sheer model size (only on smaller projects), but
I have advocated “splitting the model” for time-efficiency,
and that may be a good strategy for you in this instance.
Look for an importing mini guide thread I posted in the
archives.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">The concept is
to build up parallel model files that are intentionally
structured/named in a fashion to be import-able into each
other. You may find splitting your building in two will be
functionally manageable with the eQuest interface, and
if/when you need to model both halves of the building
together you can go through the importing hoops. Before
going far down this path I would personally give this
strategy a test run to be sure the importing feature doesn’t
cause unique issues due to model size… uncharted territory!<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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[<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org">mailto:equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org</a>] <b>On
Behalf Of </b>Dahlstrom, Aaron<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, October 21, 2011 3:28 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Chakraborty, Jude;
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:equest-users@lists.onebuilding.org">equest-users@lists.onebuilding.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Equest-users] Equest freeze and
Spreadsheet refresh error<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">We have
definitely have had models that were so large we couldn’t
make changes in the spreadsheet view.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">It’s tedious
but one option is to make any changes needed in the dialog
boxes.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">AD<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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[<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org">mailto:equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org</a>] <b>On
Behalf Of </b>Chakraborty, Jude<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, October 21, 2011 1:41 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:equest-users@lists.onebuilding.org">equest-users@lists.onebuilding.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Equest-users] Equest freeze and
Spreadsheet refresh error<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Dear all,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">I am trying to model a high rise 25 floor
courthouse building with multiple shells (12) and many zones
(near 500). I have used floor multipliers where I could to
make the model simpler but it ended up with 60,000 lines and
about 7500 components. The .bdl file doesn’t show any error
and I have also run a default simulation, which took its time
but gave results without any errors. <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Now in the detailed interface, equest
freezes whenever I try to make changes on anything or create a
new schedule. Also when I go to the building shell
spreadsheet, it shows this “Spreadsheet refresh error” with
the following text "Selection list exceeds maximum length of
65,500 characters (98,339required). Notify program support
representative". <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN">Does it mean that I need to
reduce number of spaces/zones or divide my building into two
separate files? Any idea how to solve this problem?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN">Thanks,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN">Jude.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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