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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Hmm*… <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I think my experience and present thinking sandwiches me somewhere in the middle of these proposed approaches/assertations... Aboveground parking garages in my models are never “excluded” entirely, but like Pasha typically manifest as a collection of building shades, external lighting loads and process fan loads to represent mechanical ventilation. Ventilation/lighting loads are defined with unique scheduling to capture their controls at the meter or sub-meters for easy documentation/model verification. Building walls against the garage are modeled as exterior surfaces, shaded but otherwise exposed to outside ambient conditions<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Modeling an unconditioned garage as an unconditioned space/zone (in eQuest terms) is something I did starting out, and if the garage is very large/enclosed may allow for a better representation of temperatures for “semi-conditioned partitions,” but it just seems like more work to me altogether, particularly in LEED documentation and reviewer clarifications like those bringing this discussion up… <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I personally model conditioned and semi-conditioned garage spaces (like elevator lobbies) as eQuest spaces/zones exactly where they are located – within the garage or along the actual building perimeter. To one of James’ & Robby’s points, these are modeled with exterior walls and in spite of the garage building shades may experience more extreme temperatures than in reality as the tempering effects of big slabs of concrete are present even in fully open garages. For the context of LEED: the baseline/proposed remain on level footing however by 90.1’s design, and I’ve yet to run into the case where such “more extreme” conditions resulted in unmet hours, forcing a more accurate representation.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Suffice to say, I believe there’s more than one “right” way to model a garage, with different approaches having unique qualities considering degree-of-accuracy & time-efficiency. We should remember an “appropriate” degree of accuracy for one model may be overkill for another (time better spent improving the accuracy of something else). In energy modeling it’s normally difficult to generalize and say any single approach is “right.”<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>WWR with my approach remains a calculation using the gross exterior wall & fenestration areas of the non-garage building. The exterior surfaces of the garage (conveniently) don’t wedge their way into eQuest’s outputs to be removed later, because they are not modeled as space surfaces. Note the alternative of including the garage surfaces for WWR calcs could ultimately either help OR hurt your performance rating – not sure if everyone is picking up on that. It would appear both interpretations have made it through the LEED reviewer gauntlet in any case.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>To an earlier point/query somebody touched on: “Enforcement” of not-quite-matching areas for LEED is something I find to reflect a reviewers general familiarity (or not) with building modeling practice. If it’s noted my models’ totals are very different because they don’t include the gross area of a garage and someone else filled out their LEED templates in a different fashion, I explain/reiterate the garage is in fact modeled, the difference in areas are appropriate/expected and merely the result of how areas are tallied for spaces within eQuest. If a reviewer should thereafter insist the areas match exactly, an obstinate response would cost our project team money due to an additional review, or has otherwise annoyed me to the point I don’t feel like educating him/her, I might just add a dummy space of the appropriate area to make the tallies match. I haven’t run into that particular reviewer just yet though =).<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I cannot speak to modeling fully conditioned (heated and cooled) parking garages, but if I that crossed my desk I would intuitively define a conditioned space – I think that places fully conditioned garages out of the current discussion.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>~Nick<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span 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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#2D4D5E'>direct 913.344.0036<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#2D4D5E'>fax 913.345.0617<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><a href="www.smithboucher.com" title="blocked::www.smithboucher.com"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>www.smithboucher.com</span></a></span><u><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:blue'> </span></u><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org [mailto:equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>deepika khowal<br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, October 20, 2011 12:57 PM<br><b>To:</b> Pasha Korber-Gonzalez<br><b>Cc:</b> equest-users@lists.onebuilding.org<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Equest-users] wwr calculation<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>I never mentioned am using 90.1 standard.<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>it was a generic question about calculating wwr .<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>and if you say its not important to model unconditioned spaces, how do you account for heat transfer between conditioned and unconditioned spaces?<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Thanks<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>Deepika<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Thu, Oct 20, 2011 at 3:33 AM, Pasha Korber-Gonzalez <<a href="mailto:pasha.pkconsulting@gmail.com">pasha.pkconsulting@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>I disagree with both of you.<br><br>First of all, who models Garages in their models anyway? What a waste of time.---this scews the gross floor area, and nothing in a parking garage impacts the HVAC equipment loads of the conditioned spaces....you can always input your garage vent fans and lighting as single exterior load input numbers in your model which simplifies the whole modeling project and billable time spent WITHOUT compromising on the calculations of energy use....<br><br>Second of all---poor example for offering windows in a parking garage--this is never real life, and a non-applicable example doesn't "hold water". At least give an example that is comparable to real life situations... Parking garages are either open air, or underground (without fenestration...) Have you ever had a project where Mechanical cooling needed to be provided to a parking garage? I hope not because these are considered transient space types.<br><br>If you are modeling your LEED buildings according to appendix G --90.1 you do not include the above grade garage wall area in your gross building WWR calculation.<br><br>FOURTH---Deepika---you are modeling a residential home from your picture you sent us. YOU CANNOT USE ASHRAE STANDARD 90.1 TO MODEL LOW-RISE RESIDENTIAL BUILDINGS!<br><br>You are using and interpreting the wrong standard, you need to use ASHRAE Standard 90.2 for Non-commerical Residential buildings. You will need to use this new reference as everything you are referring to does not apply for your project or your project model.<br> <br>The real answer to your question is the Nebraska Cornhusker football team IS BETTER than the Virgina Tech Hoakies! GO BIG RED!!!!<br>Pasha<o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Wed, Oct 19, 2011 at 3:15 PM, deepika khowal <<a href="mailto:deepika.khowal@gmail.com" target="_blank">deepika.khowal@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>I agree with James .<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>if its unconditioned space, we should not claim the window area . that way we can have higher WWR for rest of conditioned spaces.<o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Wed, Oct 19, 2011 at 1:56 PM, James Hansen <<a href="mailto:JHANSEN@ghtltd.com" target="_blank">JHANSEN@ghtltd.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>I don't think I agree with this advice</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>Under ASHRAE 90.1-2007, Section 5.2.1, part of the requirements for the PRESCRIPTIVE method requires that "the vertical fenestration area does not exceed 40% of the gross wall area for each <b><i>space-conditioning category</i></b>". </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>The definition for "space conditioning category" simply says:</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'> non-residential conditioned space,</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'> residential conditioned space, and</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'> nonresidential and residential semiheated space</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>It doesn't list unconditioned space. Now I know this info is listed in the prescriptive requirements, but if it was my model, and I had a garage that had 100% window area, there is no way I would count that towards the gross WWR, particularly if I was applying for LEED, and these inconsequential windows pushed my WWR above 40% and thus penalized my proposed building. In fact, I might not even model the windows, unless I felt they were going to superheat the garage and start impacting adjacent space cooling loads.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>Just my opinion...</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:teal'>GHT Limited<br></span></b><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>James Hansen, P.E., LEED AP</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:#1F497D'><br>Senior Associate<br>1010 N. Glebe Road, Suite 200<br>Arlington, VA 22201-4749<br><a href="tel:703-243-1200" target="_blank">703-243-1200</a> (office)</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:#1F497D'><a href="tel:703-338-5754" target="_blank">703-338-5754</a> (cell)<br><a href="tel:703-276-1376" target="_blank">703-276-1376</a> (fax)</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:#1F497D'><a href="http://www.ghtltd.com/" target="_blank" title="http://www.ghtltd.com/">www.ghtltd.com</a></span><o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt'> <a href="mailto:equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org" target="_blank">equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org" target="_blank">equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>PKConsulting<br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, October 19, 2011 4:04 PM<br><b>To:</b> deepika khowal<br><b>Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:equest-users@lists.onebuilding.org" target="_blank">equest-users@lists.onebuilding.org</a><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Equest-users] wwr calculation</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>It doesn't change for unconditioned or conditioned. It is only a function of gross wall area (ft2) and window area (ft2). Don't think too hard about this. You are looking for a needle in the wrong haystack. This one is straight forward with no tricks...<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>WWR is for whole bldg not space by space.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><br>Pashalu<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt'><br>On Oct 19, 2011, at 12:20 PM, deepika khowal <<a href="mailto:deepika.khowal@gmail.com" target="_blank">deepika.khowal@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Thanks Pasha<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>yes , i have been using LV-d report.<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Am confused how it work for an unconditioned space.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt'>Thanks<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>On Wed, Oct 19, 2011 at 11:01 AM, PKConsulting <<a href="mailto:pasha.pkconsulting@gmail.com" target="_blank">pasha.pkconsulting@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>It should be the gross wall area for everything above ground. Use the lv-d report to find the numbers to calculate the overall WWR for your entire bldg. There is a summary page at the end of the lv-d report. Look for the line called-'all walls'. You can use those numbers to calc WWR percentage.<br><br>Pashalu<o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><br>On Oct 19, 2011, at 11:39 AM, deepika khowal <<a href="mailto:deepika.khowal@gmail.com" target="_blank">deepika.khowal@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br><br>> Hi all<br>><br>> I have a question about calculating WWR.<br>> for example, if the south wall area is 700sf and total window area is 70sf then the WWR should be 10%.<br>> but if 50% of south wall is part of a garage and is unconditioned, then in calculating WWR , should I include only the wall area for conditioned space or it should include complete facade?<br>> Thanks<br>><br>> Deepika<br>><br>><br>><br>><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>> <image.png><br>> _______________________________________________<br>> Equest-users mailing list<br>> <a href="http://lists.onebuilding.org/listinfo.cgi/equest-users-onebuilding.org" target="_blank">http://lists.onebuilding.org/listinfo.cgi/equest-users-onebuilding.org</a><br>> To unsubscribe from this mailing list send a blank message to <a href="mailto:EQUEST-USERS-UNSUBSCRIBE@ONEBUILDING.ORG" target="_blank">EQUEST-USERS-UNSUBSCRIBE@ONEBUILDING.ORG</a><o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div></blockquote></div></div></div><div class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><hr size=2 width="100%" align=center></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>The information contained in this communication is confidential, may be privileged, and is intended only for the use of the addressee. 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