thank you Carol and John<div><br></div><div>I also verified with ASHRAE and it says</div><div><span style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Tahoma; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: -webkit-auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; font-size: medium;"><span style="color: rgb(122, 122, 122); font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 11px;">"Window-Wall Ratio: The window-wall ratio is the ratio of vertical fenestration area to gross exterior wall area. The fenestration area is the rough opening, i.e., it includes the frame, sash, and other nonglazed window components. The gross exterior wall is measured horizontally from the exterior surface; it is measured vertically from the top of the floor to the bottom of the roof. The gross exterior wall area includes below-grade as well as above-grade walls. 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<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Jul 28, 2011 at 5:00 PM, John Aulbach <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:jra_sac@yahoo.com">jra_sac@yahoo.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
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</div><b><span style="font-weight:bold">From:</span></b> Carol Gardner <<a href="mailto:cmg750@gmail.com" target="_blank">cmg750@gmail.com</a>><br><b><span style="font-weight:bold">To:</span></b> deepika khowal <<a href="mailto:deepika.khowal@gmail.com" target="_blank">deepika.khowal@gmail.com</a>><br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Cc:</span></b> <a href="mailto:equest-users@lists.onebuilding.org" target="_blank">equest-users@lists.onebuilding.org</a><br><b><span style="font-weight:bold">Sent:</span></b> Thursday, July 28, 2011 4:36 PM<br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Subject:</span></b> Re: [Equest-users] WWR calculation by equest<br></font><div><div></div><div class="h5"><br>
<div>Deepika,<br><br>I would think that the frame is included in the window area with just the wall in the wall area. My assumption would be backed up by the treatment of a the glass/frame as an entire window unit.<br><br>
Hope that helps,<br><br>Carol<br><br>
<div>On Thu, Jul 28, 2011 at 2:41 PM, deepika khowal <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:deepika.khowal@gmail.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">deepika.khowal@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote style="border-left:#ccc 1px solid;margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;padding-left:1ex">Hi all
<div>I am looking at LV-D report to calculate the wwr of the building,</div>
<div>does the software include the frame area also while calculating window area?</div>
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<div>when I manually calculate this, I always use the actual glass area (without frames/ total wall areas)</div>
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<div>can anyone explain which should be the right approach.</div>
<div>Thanks</div>
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<div>Regards</div>
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