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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Hi Christian,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>USGBC/LEED/90.1 does not
officially sanction or require any eQuest-specific procedure (nor any other
program), so ultimately it falls on the modelers to know what the heck we’re
doing and be able to defend it in cases like this.š <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>As a qualifier, not all
efficiency ratings are fan-energy-inclusive.š For those that are, the procedure
I follow (using a spreadsheet) is to basically:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'><![if !supportLists]><span
style='color:#1F497D'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>1.<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>
</span></span></span><![endif]><span style='color:#1F497D'>Using the maximum
design capacity, translate the prescribed/scheduled efficiency from SEER/EER to
kW input at maximum capacity.š You may have noticed there’s more than one
SEER equation out there… For seasonal efficiencies (SEER/AFUE), there are
various formulae for conversion to steady-state efficiencies (EER/COP) that
vary based on what kind of equipment you’re dealing with.š You’ll
also find that certain equipment like heatpumps have multiple equations referenced,
as there are multiple white papers published over the decades that attempt to
establish a relationship between nominal seasonal efficiency and steady-state
efficiency, where each study sampled different equipment from a different
period of time.š What does this mean for today’s LEED modeler?š <u>There are
multiple right answers</u> (provided you know where you’re coming from).š
To give a more concrete response on this point, here are the equations I have
collected and currently use for baseline system seasonal efficiencies (with
references):<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoListParagraph><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal align=right style='text-align:right'><b><span
style='color:black'>EER=f(SEER):<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><i><u><a
href="http://apps1.eere.energy.gov/buildings/publications/pdfs/%20building_america/house_simulation_revised.pdf"><span
style='color:windowtext'>[Reference: NREL Building America House Simulation
Protocol (Revised), citing Wassmer, M. (2003). A Component-Based Model for
Residential Air Conditioner and Heat Pump Energy Calculations.]</span></a><o:p></o:p></u></i></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal align=right style='text-align:right'><span
style='color:black'>(AC) (Baseline Systems #1, #3, #5 & #6):<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#0070C0'>EER</span><span
style='font-size:8.0pt;color:#0070C0'>NET</span><span style='color:#0070C0'>
= -0.0182*SEER^2 + 1.1088*SEER<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal align=right style='text-align:right'><span
style='color:black'>(HP-cooling) (Baseline Systems #2 & #4):<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#0070C0'>EER</span><span
style='font-size:8.0pt;color:#0070C0'>NET</span><span style='color:#0070C0'>
= -0.02*SEER^2 + 1.1268*SEER<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal align=right style='text-align:right'><b><span
style='color:black'>COP=f(HSPF):<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><i><u>[Reference: Wassmer, M. (2003). A Component-Based
Model for Residential Air Conditioner and Heat Pump Energy Calculations.
Masters Thesis, University of Colorado at Boulder.]<o:p></o:p></u></i></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal align=right style='text-align:right'><span
style='color:black'>(HP-heating) (Baseline Systems #2 & #4):<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:red'>COP</span><span style='font-size:
8.0pt;color:red'>NET</span><span style='color:red'> = -0.0255*HSPF^2 +
0.6239*HSPF<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal align=right style='text-align:right'><b><span
style='color:black'>HIR = f(AFUE):<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><i><u>[Reference: California Energy Commission's 2005
"Nonresidential Alternative Calculation Method (ACM) Approval
Manual"]<o:p></o:p></u></i></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal align=right style='text-align:right'><span
style='color:black'>For single packaged central furnace (baseline system #3):<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#00B050'>HIR = (.005163*AFUE+0.4033)^-1<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal align=right style='text-align:right'><span
style='color:black'>For Boilers where 75 ˜ AFUE < 80 (Baseline systems #1,
#5 ):<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#00B050'>HIR = (0.1*AFUE+72.5)^-1*100<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal align=right style='text-align:right'><span
style='color:black'>For Boilers where 80 ˜ AFUE < 100 (Baseline systems
#1, #5 ):<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#00B050'>HIR = (0.875*AFUE+10.5)^-1*100<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoListParagraph><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>*Note: The cited references above
are freely accessible on the internet, last time I checked.š If anyone has a “better”
equation to suggest, (knowing where the equation came from), please share!š <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'><![if !supportLists]><span
style='color:#1F497D'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>2.<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>
</span></span></span><![endif]><span style='color:#1F497D'>For baseline
systems, calculate the system fan energy Pfan.š For proposed systems, calculate
the actual system fan energy in kW.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'><![if !supportLists]><span
style='color:#1F497D'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>3.<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>
</span></span></span><![endif]><span style='color:#1F497D'>Using the system fan
design airflow(s), enter the calculated fan energy as kW/CFM under airside
systems tab.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'><![if !supportLists]><span
style='color:#1F497D'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>4.<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>
</span></span></span><![endif]><span style='color:#1F497D'>Subtract #2 from the
cooling “kW input” in #1 – this is the “other-than-fan
energy.”š Using the design cooling capacity for the system, turn that
into an EIR figure for input in the model.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoListParagraph><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Those who make the effort to
understand what’s happening have the right idea.š Relying on others’
work and tools without fundamental understanding on occasion is necessary, but
it’s a slippery slope to be sure.š <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Best of luck to you!<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>~Nick<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
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equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org
[mailto:equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Christian
Kaltreider<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, July 11, 2011 7:43 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> equest-users@lists.onebuilding.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Equest-users] Separating Fan Energy from EER<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Hi All,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>There are strings about this
subject in the archives, but they do not fully answer my questions and I am not
able to open some of the key attachments. Here is my question: Is
there a LEED-accepted method for separating out fan energy from an EER? I
am looking for how this can be done without eQUEST doing some behind-the-scenes
calculations/assumptions. There is an equation that was given in a former
string, but I don’t know its source or whether it is an accepted method
by the reviewing committee. Again, I am looking to be able to show how
this is done by hand…not how to get eQUEST to do it for me.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Thanks very much for your help,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Christian<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Christian Kaltreider, LEED AP<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Energy Engineer<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Sud Associates, PA<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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