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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Will:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>I couldn’t agree more with you on Section 2.3. However, what matters is not what I think, but the LEED/USGBC review team. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>In my experience, I’ve modeled data rooms in offices as a System 3/4 for the baseline and as scheduled for the design case. I’ve modeled small rooms with a mini-split DX unit, and also for larger rooms with CRAC style units (Liebert, DataAire, etc). I haven’t had any issues with this in the review process. In addition, from some internet research, it appears that architects/engineers are getting large-scale data centers certified, so they must be wanting us to split data center HVAC usage from server/process usage. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Sorry that I do not have any more insight than this, but I do understand your frustration with data rooms/centers and applicability to 90.1. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'> I would also point you to some addenda for 90.1 that does mention data centers and outlines some requirements (addenda BU). It looks like these Liebert units would meet the requirements for efficiency in this addenda. For the purposes of LEED certification, I would caution to read all addenda, since LEED doesn’t let you pick and choose addenda, there may be some addenda out there that might hurt your energy savings percentage. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Andy<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org [mailto:equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Will Mak<br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, June 28, 2011 8:47 AM<br><b>To:</b> equest-users@lists.onebuilding.org<br><b>Subject:</b> [Equest-users] Modeling Typical IT Rooms AC Units<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Segoe UI","sans-serif"'>Hey all,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Segoe UI","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Segoe UI","sans-serif"'>I’m working on a LEED energy model for an office building that has a couple standard sized data rooms for server storage. They will be served by a couple air cooled Liebert units. I started inputting information about the units in the proposed design model and requested EER information from our vendor. The EER value was provided but also pointed me towards ASHRAE 90.1-2007 Section 2.3 as the reason why EER values aren’t typically provided for these types of units (he claims the cooling of the server rooms would be considered process cooling):<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Segoe UI","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Segoe UI","sans-serif"'>ASHRAE 90.1-2007 Section 2.3 - The provisions of this standard do not apply to:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Segoe UI","sans-serif"'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>a.<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Segoe UI","sans-serif"'>Single-family houses, multi-family structures of three stories or fewer above grade, manufactured houses (mobile homes), and manufactured houses (modular)<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Segoe UI","sans-serif"'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>b.<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Segoe UI","sans-serif"'>Buildings that do not use either electricity or fossil fuel, or<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Segoe UI","sans-serif"'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>c.<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Segoe UI","sans-serif"'>Equipment and portions of building systems that use energy primarily to provide for industrial, manufacturing, or commercial processes</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Segoe UI","sans-serif"'>.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Segoe UI","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Segoe UI","sans-serif"'>I’ve typically model the scheduled units on the proposed design model and System Type 3 or 4 on baseline model. However, if the above Section 2.3 applies, should we be modeling the systems that serve IT rooms in an office building as “process energy” and be equal?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Segoe UI","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Segoe UI","sans-serif";color:#C75B12'>William Mak, LEED AP BD+C</span></b><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Segoe UI","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><br></span><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Segoe UI","sans-serif";color:black'>Mechanical Design Engineer</span><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Segoe UI","sans-serif";color:black'><br></span><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Segoe UI","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><br></span><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Segoe UI","sans-serif";color:#C75B12'>EPSTEIN</span></b><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Segoe UI","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><br></span><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Segoe UI","sans-serif";color:black'>Architecture<br></span><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Segoe UI","sans-serif";color:#C75B12'>Interiors</span><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Segoe UI","sans-serif";color:black'><br>Engineering<br></span><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Segoe UI","sans-serif";color:#C75B12'>Construction</span><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Segoe UI","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Segoe UI","sans-serif";color:black'>Sustainability<br><br>600 West Fulton Street<br>Chicago, Illinois 60661-1259<br><br>D: (312) 429-8116<br>F: (312) 429-8800</span><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Segoe UI","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Segoe UI","sans-serif";color:black'>E:</span><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Segoe UI","sans-serif";color:#0070C0'> <a href="mailto:wmak@epsteinglobal.com">wmak@epsteinglobal.com</a></span><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Segoe UI","sans-serif";color:black'><br>W:</span><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Segoe UI","sans-serif";color:#C75B12'> <a href="http://www.epsteinglobal.com/"><span style='color:#C75B12'>www.epsteinglobal.com</span></a></span><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Segoe UI","sans-serif";color:black'><br><br></span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Webdings;color:#00B050'>þ</span><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Segoe UI","sans-serif";color:black'> Epstein is a firm believer in sustainability. 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