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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Those who’ve followed me might recognize this is an act of
self-restraint on my part… Here are some condensed thoughts (really!) =):<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'><![if !supportLists]><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><span
style='mso-list:Ignore'>1.<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>
</span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>To those discussing baseline constructions and massing – I’ve
posted this a few times, but attached are all the wall/roof baseline
constructions ready for import, each material layer fully compliant with properties
as prescribed in Appendix A. Bruce/Bill have given succinct responses as to
why one ought to avoid the “weightless” route in general practice, and the ease/consistency
resulting from importing/assigning constructions like this removes any concern
over the extra time involved. Credits as always to Adam Boyd for originally pulling
this work together.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'><![if !supportLists]><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><span
style='mso-list:Ignore'>2.<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>
</span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>To those discussing what should be required of LEED reviewers:
I think it’s clear the system can be improved – let’s continue the discussion.
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:1.0in;text-indent:-.25in;
mso-list:l0 level2 lfo1'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>a.<span
style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>To directly
answer why the reviewership as a whole (not individual reviewers) should
represent expertise in a variety of modeling software, it is precisely because
that very expertise is necessary in “sorting the garbage,” to extend the idiom.
While the standards/rules being enforced are “software-neutral,” one needs software-specific
experience to know what inputs & outputs she/he needs to check. To draw an
analogy: An auto-repair mechanic may possesses the experience &
fundamentals to recognize certain vibrations in an airplane ride may be
indicative of a mechanical problem, but a person with expertise/experience working
on planes will know how to (a) verify whether there is a problem at all, and
(b) what questions to ask and what variables will correct the problem.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:1.0in;text-indent:-.25in;
mso-list:l0 level2 lfo1'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>b.<span
style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I
think all model review comments could be classified as follows:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:1.5in;text-indent:-1.5in;
mso-text-indent-alt:-9.0pt;mso-list:l0 level3 lfo1'><![if !supportLists]><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><span
style='mso-list:Ignore'><span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>
</span>i.<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>
</span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Those that result in correcting a
misinterpretation/misapplication of the standards/rules in play,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:1.5in;text-indent:-1.5in;
mso-text-indent-alt:-9.0pt;mso-list:l0 level3 lfo1'><![if !supportLists]><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><span
style='mso-list:Ignore'><span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>
</span>ii.<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>
</span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Those that result in the modeler having to provide additional
information so the reviewer can do their job, and<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:1.5in;text-indent:-1.5in;
mso-text-indent-alt:-9.0pt;mso-list:l0 level3 lfo1'><![if !supportLists]><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><span
style='mso-list:Ignore'><span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>
</span>iii.<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>
</span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Those that result in the modeler having to explain/illustrate
how the software works.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:1.0in'><span style='font-size:
11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>To better identify the
issue: A lack of expertise in the software at-hand can result in a majority of
comments to be of the last sort, which doesn’t benefit any party and eats up a
lot of time without a productive result. When a review largely boils down to a
“how I do my job” narrative, it is understandably frustrating for many reasons,
not the least of which in that it seems to trivialize the entire exercise.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:1.0in;text-indent:-.25in;
mso-list:l0 level2 lfo1'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>c.<span
style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I am
CERTAIN some of this is the simple result of good people losing their honest
efforts in translation. Effective communication is an ever-present challenge
for all sides in this field of energy modeling. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'><![if !supportLists]><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><span
style='mso-list:Ignore'>3.<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>
</span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>To those discussing each other, I hope the following will close that
side of the conversation: For as long as I have been here, this is and has
always been an inclusive forum where we’ve enjoyed the opportunity to discuss complex
and difficult issues. One can come here to share experience, ask questions,
gain perspectives and (importantly!) vent. “Railing against the system” is appropriate
and even necessary for progress, so long as you aren’t pointing fingers where
it isn’t called for. Due to the intelligence and grace shared by the subscribing
community we all enjoy a professional atmosphere, but it is only the result of a
give and take relationship. To be respected, be respectful! Doing otherwise
does yourself and the list a disservice. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'><![if !supportLists]><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><span
style='mso-list:Ignore'>4.<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>
</span></span></span><![endif]><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:
"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>As a separate, emphasized point</span></b><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>: Words
like “rape” are powerful and can cut deep when you don’t expect it to. Remember
that we are a large body of individuals with unique personal histories and
experiences. Nobody can pretend to know where everyone is coming from, but
some in this world have darn good reason to be sensitive. Please, if someone
objects to choice words for professional reasons or otherwise, let’s grant the benefit
of the doubt and be considerate. That’s about all I have to say on the issue, but
I will happily discuss further *<b>off-list</b>* if anyone wishes to.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoListParagraph><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Thanks,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>~Nick<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#2D4D5E'><o:p> </o:p></span></b></p>
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color:#2D4D5E'>NICK CATON, P.E.</span></b><b><span style='font-family:"Stylus BT","sans-serif";
color:#2D4D5E'><o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#CC9900'>SENIOR ENGINEER<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#CC9900'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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color:#2D4D5E'>Smith & Boucher Engineers</span><span style='font-size:7.5pt;
color:#CC9900'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#2D4D5E'>25501 west valley parkway, suite 200<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#2D4D5E'>olathe, ks 66061<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#2D4D5E'>direct 913.344.0036<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#2D4D5E'>fax 913.345.0617<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'><a href="www.smithboucher.com"
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:blue'> </span></u><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org
[mailto:equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Kelsey
VanTassel<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, June 17, 2011 4:05 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Paul Diglio; Nathan Miller; Pasha Korber-Gonzalez<br>
<b>Cc:</b> equest-users@lists.onebuilding.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Equest-users] LEED Review Comment - Exhaust Fans<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Why should LEED reviewers be expected to be experts in every
type of modeling software? The software itself is just a calculator. As long as
it meets the requirements, it shouldn’t matter which program was used. The LEED
reviewers judge the models on the results and the quality of the inputs.
Garbage In, Garbage Out.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:black'>Kelsey Van Tassel</span><span style='color:#000066'><o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:black'>Mechanical Engineer | <a href="mailto:kvantassel@sustaineng.com">kvantassel@sustaineng.com</a></span><span
style='color:#000066'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:black'>608.836.4488 ext. 20 | Fax: 608.836.4477<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#000066'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:black'>Sustainable Engineering Group</span><span style='color:#000066'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:black'>901 Deming Way, Suite 201<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:black'>Madison, WI 53717<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:black'><a href="http://www.sustaineng.com/">www.sustaineng.com</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>
equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org
[mailto:equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Paul
Diglio<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, June 17, 2011 3:55 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Nathan Miller; Pasha Korber-Gonzalez<br>
<b>Cc:</b> equest-users@lists.onebuilding.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Equest-users] LEED Review Comment - Exhaust Fans<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>Nathan:<br>
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I am being fair and I expect the reviewers to experts in every energy modeling
program that is allow under Appendix G. The GBCI should refer specific
projects using eQuest or Trace or HAP to reviewers that are competent in that
software.<br>
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Paul Diglio<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Nathan Miller <nathanm@rushingco.com><br>
<b>To:</b> Paul Diglio <paul.diglio@sbcglobal.net>; Pasha Korber-Gonzalez
<pasha.pkconsulting@gmail.com><br>
<b>Cc:</b> equest-users@lists.onebuilding.org<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Fri, June 17, 2011 4:45:45 PM<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [Equest-users] LEED Review Comment - Exhaust Fans</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Paul, </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>I think you are being a bit unfair to the reviewers (full
disclosure, I reviewed EAc1 submittals in the pre-GBCI days, when consulting
teams performed the reviews). </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>They don’t go into a review with all of the knowledge that we
had while building up the model. All they get is the template and the
supplementary documentation that we as submitters have decided to provide them.
Sometimes these documents are a bare minimum, and sometimes it is a flood of
information that is too much to try to go over.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>They have to piece together if the saving you are presenting
make sense given the building and system components that have been described.
It can be quite a puzzle to figure out , for example, if it makes sense that
someone is showing 35% ventilation fan energy savings when comparing their
series VAV system to the baseline parallel VAV system. Reviewers can try to be
helpful, and point out specific items they want verified, though sometimes they
do in fact make mistakes and look like idiots for what they are asking (I’m
thinking of the electric resistance heating question from earlier in the
thread). Alternately they can be vague with their comments and put the onus on
the submitter to prove that the savings make sense, but that can be equally
frustrating to respond to. </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Additionally I don’t think it is fair for them to be experts in
every energy modeling program that is allowed under Appendix G. That is completely
unrealistic. They won’t necessarily know that one program puts boiler
supplementary energy in the space heating end use category, as that could be
different with different programs, and certainly isn’t intuitive. </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Sincerely, </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#632423'>Nathan Miller, PE, LEED<sup>®</sup>AP</span></b><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><i><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:black'>Senior Energy Engineer/Mechanical Engineer</span></i><o:p></o:p></p>
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line-height:115%;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#632423'>D</span></b><span
style='font-size:8.0pt;line-height:115%;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:#BFAB7F'> </span><span style='font-size:8.0pt;line-height:115%;
font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>206-788-4577</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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color:#1F497D'><a href="http://www.rushingco.com/" target="_blank"><b><i><span
style='font-size:8.0pt;color:#632423'>www.rushingco.com</span></i></b></a></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org
[mailto:equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Paul
Diglio<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, June 17, 2011 1:03 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Pasha Korber-Gonzalez<br>
<b>Cc:</b> equest-users@lists.onebuilding.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Equest-users] LEED Review Comment - Exhaust Fans</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>Pasha:<br>
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No problem, it is raping as far as I am concerned. GBCI is using
incompetent reviewers and they expect us to train them. They take the
application fees and offer nothing in return except ridiculous comments.<br>
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I have a similar problem with Northeast Utilities serving CT and MA. NU
offers a modeling incentive of $6,000, an efficiency incentive up to $2.00 ft2
and a LEED incentive up to $15,000. They employ reviewers that have no
modeling or eQuest experience. One reviewer expected that I would explain
how custom performance curves are built for an eQuest VRV system.<br>
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I told them I wasn't in the business of training their employees at the
client's expense. I would provide the manufacturer's performance tables
and my eQuest curve coefficients, but I was not going to spend time to explain
how to verify that my curves are accurate. They need to spend money to
train their reviewers or hire experienced reviewers.<br>
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I feel that the comments that you received from the GBCI were indicative of a
person who has no clue and is not qualified to review building simulations.<br>
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Regards,<br>
<br>
Paul Diglio </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> Pasha Korber-Gonzalez
<pasha.pkconsulting@gmail.com><br>
<b>To:</b> Paul Diglio <paul.diglio@sbcglobal.net><br>
<b>Cc:</b> equest-users@lists.onebuilding.org<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Fri, June 17, 2011 3:45:23 PM<br>
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<p class=MsoNormal>Hi Paul-- thanks for receiving my comment in the most
professional sense of the term as it relates to the economics of the LEED
simulation & Compliance markets. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>I didn't really feel it was unprofessional, but I didn't
desire to offend anyone with the terms that i chose. I was pretty
sure that I wasn't completely alone with the 'feeling' or sense I was getting
from others comments I've seen with the forum (past & present).<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>I offer a sincere professional apology if my chosen
adjectives offended anyone. (were they adjectives? I don't know I'm
not an english major...) :)<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>Cheers,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 1:41 PM, Paul Diglio <<a
href="mailto:paul.diglio@sbcglobal.net" target="_blank">paul.diglio@sbcglobal.net</a>>
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I agree with your 'raping' verb and do not think it is inappropriate for the
forum. Dan is out of sync.<br>
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Paul Diglio</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> Daniel Knapp <<a
href="mailto:danielk@arborus.ca" target="_blank">danielk@arborus.ca</a>><br>
<b>To:</b> Pasha Korber-Gonzalez <<a
href="mailto:pasha.pkconsulting@gmail.com" target="_blank">pasha.pkconsulting@gmail.com</a>><br>
<b>Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:equest-users@lists.onebuilding.org" target="_blank">equest-users@lists.onebuilding.org</a><br>
<b>Sent:</b> Fri, June 17, 2011 3:32:24 PM<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Equest-users] LEED Review Comment - Exhaust Fans</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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has already paid them. DEAR USGBC---please stop raping the industry
for the money monopoly that you have created. The sense of GREED is
oozing from everything that comes out of USGBC/GBCI with a price tag on it or a
cost associated with it.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>I hear that you are very frustrated with the review process,
however, I find this kind of language inappropriate for a public forum and
would ask that you take more care in the future.<o:p></o:p></p>
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Daniel Knapp, PhD, LEED® AP O+M<br>
<a href="mailto:danielk@arborus.ca" target="_blank">danielk@arborus.ca</a><br>
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Arborus Consulting<br>
Energy Strategies for the Built Environment<br>
<a href="http://www.arborus.ca/" target="_blank">www.arborus.ca</a><br>
76 Chamberlain Avenue <br>
Ottawa, ON, K1S 1V9 <br>
Phone: (613) 234-7178 ext. 113<br>
Fax: (613) 234-0740<br>
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