<div>If I had to bet on the developers including that function soon, I would say you'd be luckier to bet that your grandkids will see that feature...here's why:</div>
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<div>The great developers of eQuest are by foundation HVAC designers---they are not software developers or programmers by trade or even family tree. ;)</div>
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<div>Therefore this is how it goes for most simulators who are using eQuest today. If I had the chance to talk to Jeff & Steve and guys I would be more inclined to ask them to quickly develop a way that VRV systems and DOAS systems can be easily modeled in DOE-2.2/eQuest, RATHER than ask them to spend thier valuable development time creating a library function in eQuest.</div>
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<div>If you had your 'druthers' which would you choose?</div>
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<div>That's also why some of the other basic functions in eQuest, (i.e. it looks like a spreadsheet, but doesn't act like one...) are not further developed or available either. There is more than enough work to be done to just get the guts of DOE-2.2 working to support the industry for what it needs, rather that improve upon the administrative tools in eQuest itself.</div>
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<div>It's a funny situation, but remember that this whole building simulation things is literally a new frontier that we are all discovering an we are still only in it's infancy.</div>
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<div>Pasha :)<br><br></div>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">I just spent some time generating a few schedules and testing things out, this could really cut down time once everything is set up. While this has impressive capabilities like bring in an entire second building, it is overly complicated for doing the simple things, like importing a schedule or construction that you will use for every model.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">I just find it weird and a bit of a tease to have the ‘Save to Library’ option present but not actually usable, are they ever going to include that functionality? </span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">The import function really is the cat’s meow ;). It’s a great timesaver, even if you do need to break out your text editor (once only!).</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">See attached thread from a while ago where I walk everyone through the process, and touch on the possibilities. </span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Starting a personal collection of .inp snippets (schedules, equipment, constructions, and so on) is a major mile marker on the path to becoming a great eQuest modeler – welcome to the club =).</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">From:</span></b><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> <a href="mailto:equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org" target="_blank">equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org" target="_blank">equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Paul Riemer<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, June 13, 2011 12:07 PM<br><b>To:</b> 'Pasha Korber-Gonzalez'; Richard Auffermann<br><b>Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:equest-users@lists.onebuilding.org" target="_blank">equest-users@lists.onebuilding.org</a><br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Collectively, we have previously suggested to create snippet text.inp files and then use the Import command rather than copy paste within a text editor. So you might have a library of inp files for things like constructions, schedules, hourly reports, and utility rates (but you can reference saved ones within the wizard too). Of course some things are order dependent like your OA source system being ahead of your destination system so if you want a DOAS snippet, you may need to manually place that within in the project .inp file.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">If you like having an inp snippet library then you might also try carrying the parametric run description (prd) file from project to project.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">From:</span></b><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> <a href="mailto:equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org" target="_blank">equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org" target="_blank">equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Pasha Korber-Gonzalez<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, June 13, 2011 11:36 AM<br><b>To:</b> Richard Auffermann<br><b>Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:equest-users@lists.onebuilding.org" target="_blank">equest-users@lists.onebuilding.org</a><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Equest-users] Saving Schedules to Library</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">At this point in time....Yes, that is the best that we can do as far as I know. I had a client once who told me they were using, or pulling in thier own company's "library" data info, but I don't know if this was in the formal sense of using the Libraries in eQuest or if they created a seprate file that could be read by thier eQuest files to pull in the equipment info they wanted.</p>
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